Can you change a Bipap BiLevel to Cpap?

[kalona44]

I got a free BiPAP- BiFlex respironics System one and need to change to
CPap. Says can do so in Manuel. Does anyone know how?

[Pugsy]

You just need to go into the clinical setup menu area and change modes.
If you have the user manual it won't explain how to get into the setup menu area to make the change but the clinical/provider manual explains how.
Go here and figure out exactly which machine you have and request the manual via email.
http://www.apneaboard.com/adjust-cpap-p ... tup-manual

[kalona44]

I got a free BiPAP- BiFlex respironics System one and need to change to
CPap. Says can do so in Manuel. Does anyone know how?

just set the pressures equal or pick cpap mode depending on the machne
voila mere cpap

but why would you want to do that at all >

Because my prescription says that is what I need. Does it really make a difference with Cpap vs BiPap?

[Pugsy]

Because my prescription says that is what I need. Does it really make a difference with Cpap vs BiPap?

Not usually a big problem to use bipap settings when originally prescribed cpap.
Often when using cpap when exhale relief is being used you end up with the machine functioning like a bilevel anyway.

Often people think of bilevel and something needed for central apnea or some extenuating circumstances and that's not necessarily the case.
Most bilevel is nothing more than cpap with a bit more exhale relief available and it can go higher than cpap if needed.

Not a big deal. Most people find bilevel more comfortable...not all but most.
Why not give it a try just to see how it feels?

If I knew exactly which bipap you have and your settings on your cpap I could come up with something very similar for you to try just to check out how it feels and still stay very close to whatever you were using with your cpap.

[Pugsy]

well an ASV is a bilevel
but it has BU rate for the CA

Never said it wasn't a bilevel but irrelevant in this thread since there was no mention of centrals or ASV bipap.

a bipap wont help CA at all
and mine caused it to get worse

Actually bipaps can help central apnea despite what you believe...in some people.

and who cares if it made your issues worse.

The only FDA approved treatment for CA is the ASV

Incorrect despite what you keep saying. There are many things that can be tried to help people with central apnea.
Care to provide a link at the FDA website saying that ASV is the ONLY therapy that works?

i got a bipap at first because i could not exhale on a cpap and they did it for more EPR but ignored the centrals it was causing

Again...who cares. I know you might not be able to understand this but ....the world doesn't revolve around you.

The OP in this thread has been using cpap...so it's pretty safe to assume no central issue and was given what appears to be a regular non backup rate bilevel device. If we knew exact model we would have more concrete information to go on.
Even if it was the ASV bilevel...it can still be configured to work like cpap even without cpap mode being available.

[Pugsy]

but the ONLY FDA APPROVED TREATMENT IS AN ASV

You are a broken record on this...you have never proven this statement and can't...that's why you just keep harping on it but don't prove it.

how does giving information have to do with me and the world revolving

You are too dense to see it...but the rest of us do. Anyone care to say I am wrong here....anyone besides mr alphabet boy?

you are stuck on stupid

Typical libtard response when someone can't come up with a logical well thought out rebuttal.
How does it feel to be called names? Not so nice huh?

[Madalot]

but the ONLY FDA APPROVED TREATMENT IS AN ASV

You are a broken record on this...you have never proven this statement and can't...that's why you just keep harping on it but don't prove it.

how does giving information have to do with me and the world revolving

You are too dense to see it...but the rest of us do. Anyone care to say I am wrong here....anyone besides mr alphabet boy?

Nope. Pugsy, you are right on the money, as usual. Nobody warns people about you, but there are plenty warning about him. Nothing more need be said.

[palerider]

but the ONLY FDA APPROVED TREATMENT IS AN ASV

You are a broken record on this...you have never proven this statement and can't...that's why you just keep harping on it but don't prove it.

meh, he's a broken record on everything.

how does giving information have to do with me and the world revolving

You are too dense to see it...but the rest of us do. Anyone care to say I am wrong here....anyone besides mr alphabet boy?

You are not wrong.

you are stuck on stupid

Typical libtard response when someone can't come up with a logical well thought out rebuttal.
How does it feel to be called names? Not so nice huh?

Oh, please, he's not *SMART* enough to be a libtard.

[TASmart]

Leave to the resident genius to claim that anyone can have an IQ lower than the test scores. Just one more inaccuracy from the voice that is never wrong.

[TASmart]

Leave to the resident genius to claim that anyone can have an IQ lower than the test scores. Just one more inaccuracy from the voice that is never wrong.

and yet libtards are the dumbest things ever to live

Would still have an IQ greater than 0. Do 2 wrongs make you correct?

[kalona44]

Because my prescription says that is what I need. Does it really make a difference with Cpap vs BiPap?

Not usually a big problem to use bipap settings when originally prescribed cpap.
Often when using cpap when exhale relief is being used you end up with the machine functioning like a bilevel anyway.

Often people think of bilevel and something needed for central apnea or some extenuating circumstances and that's not necessarily the case.
Most bilevel is nothing more than cpap with a bit more exhale relief available and it can go higher than cpap if needed.

Not a big deal. Most people find bilevel more comfortable...not all but most.
Why not give it a try just to see how it feels?

If I knew exactly which bipap you have and your settings on your cpap I could come up with something very similar for you to try just to check out how it feels and still stay very close to whatever you were using with your cpap.[/quote


The machine is a Respironics BiPap Auto and Bi-Flex system one. I know it is an older model as my step father gave it to me. My Rx pressure is set at 15 but I don't know what the exhale is set
at on the machine that I am using now. Which is a Dream Station Auto CPap w/ humidifier. I want to avoid having to pay for this machine as I may have a lapse in insurance and I just don't want to get stuck with having to pay $2000 for it.

So I am experimenting with this BiPap I got from my step father. I'm now not sure if it is going to work. I tried it for a few mins and let it ramp up on the CPap setting and yes, it was hard on the exhale. It also has a high pitch sound as I breathe so that makes me think that something is wrong with it.

Thanks for your help...
Kalona

[Pugsy]

The System One has an exhale relief setting in bilevel mode called BiFlex...try setting that at 3.
If you are using the DreamStation in cpap mode at 15...you could try these settings in fixed bilevel mode and see if it feels okay.
Fixed mode
Minimum EPAP 13...max IPAP 15 with Biflex at 3 and see if it is comfortable.

If cpap mode is being tried it has CFlex exhale relief...try setting it to 3 on the System One and set the cpap mode pressure to 15.

Yes, some of the older System One bilevel machines were louder especially at the higher pressures.
Doesn't necessarily mean something is wrong with it but then again it depends on just how loud it might be.
Plus if it has some age on it the seals inside the humidifier could be dry and causing more noise.
There is a place that repairs these machines and they could do some testing to see if there is something wrong with it.

http://acbio.com/

Look on the bottom of the blower for a 3 digit model number...is it 750 or 760?

[kalona44]

The machine that I was given and what I am asking about in this post is a Respironics Bi Pap Aut BiFlex System One. I know it is an older model but I am
trying to avoid having to purchase one if this works. I am still on a trial machine from my Dr which is a Dream Station Auto Cpap. My pressure is set to 15
but do not know what the exhale is.
I tried the other machine for a few mins and did have trouble with the exhale on it. So I need to go in and change that. I also noticed that the machine has
a high pitched sound as I breathe in and out so maybe this is not a good machine after all.
Thanks,
Kalona

[Guest]

people with any smarts cant be libtards
you have to have 0 iq or less to qualify for that label

Yet these are the same people you ask questions of and want them to help you? Nothing wrong with this picture eh?

and yet libtards are the dumbest things ever to live

Are your parents proud of you? Do you have any loved ones? Anyone sleep in the same building you do? Anyone?