OSA and Weight Loss Surgery

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49er
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Re: OSA and Weight Loss Surgery

Post by 49er » Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:22 am

Goofproof wrote:
sleepychar wrote:I had weight loss surgery about 8 years ago. Although I wasn't on CPAP at the time, during that process I met quite a few people who were on CPAP before surgery. Some of those people were able to stop the CPAP after losing weight and some were not. I'm not sure what made the difference for those who could stop CPAP and those who still needed it.
And some of those were looking for a excuse to stop treatment, that by no means means they were cured, they just used the excuse to go untreated. Jim
And you know that how?

As long as the folks who stopped cpap had a sleep study to confirm they were free of apnea, that is all that matters.

Sleepychar, you are raising an important issue. I have a strong family history of sleep apnea and the folks involved range from being skinny to moderately overweight. So I suspect that even if the overweight folks lost weight, the apnea would still be there as the result of having the same type of throat anatomy that makes us susceptible to apnea.

It would be interesting to do a study on this.

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Re: OSA and Weight Loss Surgery

Post by sleeplessinaz » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:00 am

Hi congrats on your decision to lose the weight -. I lost 60 pounds a year ago - diet and exercise. I still have to use my Cpap. My pressure is lower than itcwas when I was heavier. I think you will find we are never "cured". I am thin now but still have the apnea.

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Re: OSA and Weight Loss Surgery

Post by KillingMe » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:01 am

BlackSpinner wrote:
KillingMe wrote:
wrote:Read the book. It is not about weight loss, it is about your bodies reaction to the kind of food and the insulin it produces.
Is this another one of those books where the author goes nuts about "processed foods and added sugars"?

My doctor told me to eat what I like, just eat one-half of what I had been eating. It works! No book reading.
Read the book. Read the blog. It may work for a while but unless you know the science behind it all you will fail. It sounds like your doctor just gave up trying.

Of course ignorance is bliss and then people whine "but nobody told me...."

You don't know crap.

I was running 250 - 260 lbs in May of 2014. Cut my meals in half and by May of 2015 I was at 170 lbs. Maintain.

I am still at 170 and have been there for 18 months. I weigh every day. If it says 172, I cut way back on the evening meal. If it says 168, I eat whatever I want to that day.

I still eat fast food, ice cream, cheesecake, chocolate candy bars, fatty meats, lasagna ... It's just half the quantity as before.

I tear it up at the gym - lifting more weight than anyone else my age. Very surprisingly, I am lifting more weight at 170 than when 50 lbs heavier. And my sessions are long.

Lots of good compliments on my shape. Cut the food in half - it works.

Don't let me forget to mention that none of this would have been possible without CPAP!

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Re: OSA and Weight Loss Surgery

Post by Chevie » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:16 am

People are diverse. One thing won't work for all. Summary discussion - http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/12/healt ... dline&te=1

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Re: OSA and Weight Loss Surgery

Post by Goofproof » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:49 pm

49er wrote:
Goofproof wrote:
sleepychar wrote:I had weight loss surgery about 8 years ago. Although I wasn't on CPAP at the time, during that process I met quite a few people who were on CPAP before surgery. Some of those people were able to stop the CPAP after losing weight and some were not. I'm not sure what made the difference for those who could stop CPAP and those who still needed it.
And some of those were looking for a excuse to stop treatment, that by no means means they were cured, they just used the excuse to go untreated. Jim
And you know that how?

As long as the folks who stopped cpap had a sleep study to confirm they were free of apnea, that is all that matters.

Sleepychar, you are raising an important issue. I have a strong family history of sleep apnea and the folks involved range from being skinny to moderately overweight. So I suspect that even if the overweight folks lost weight, the apnea would still be there as the result of having the same type of throat anatomy that makes us susceptible to apnea.

It would be interesting to do a study on this.

49er
Most people NEVER POST PROOF, of a Sleep Apnea Cure, they may say, but never do. Rule #1, People Lie! (Dr. House) Most just say, "I'm Cured", and stop using the machine. One more successful loser, added to the pile.

If you want your proof, go back on this forum and find the PSG's of those who CLAIM they are cured. Good hunting, you won't find much verifiable prey here. Jim And I don't mean Home Sleep Studies ot tests, just real Sleep Studies done in a sleep lab, with real equiptment. Jim

Not that it really matters, people are going to do whatever they want, they have free will, even it they are lacking commonsense. It's our job to point out the options, theyir job is to figure what will work them.
Use data to optimize your xPAP treatment!

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