Should Trump Jump Up?

[SleepyMcgee]

It's very telling when a thread on trump is focused on hillary.


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[klm49]

It's very telling when a thread on trump is focused on hillary.

Not hard to guess what they use for information sources on the crook.

[ChicagoGranny]

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/ ... ry-clinton

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-2 ... -surprises

The Battle of the URLs

[PEF]

WOW this article by Michael Moore is really interesting. He really hates Trump, but, even though this post was written earlier in the election cycle, I believe he thinks Trump may still win the election. I like him, he is a really smart guy. Here is a Democrat who really understands how much Obama and the Dems blew it the last 8 years. All the points he makes in his post are really accurate when it comes to describing whose supporters will really come out to vote and how angry the electorate is. I have a lot of statistical info on why the polls may be wildly inaccurate, but I won't bother with that here.

http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/

Look folks, I have a lot of intellectual curiosity about this election. I don't care all that much who wins. So I prefer a civilized discussion. I do not hurl insults at people just because I can't change their minds - only they can do that. So lets be civil!!

[Guest]

I truly PRAY Trump is elected president!

Heaven help us if another cancerous progressive socialist like Obama (Hil-LIAR-y) is elected.

Liberalism, the demon-cratic party and RINOs have been killing my country for years and they are doing it faster than ever.

Please vote for Trump.

[SleepyMcgee]

I truly PRAY Trump is elected president!

Heaven help us if another cancerous progressive socialist like Obama (Hil-LIAR-y) is elected.

Liberalism, the demon-cratic party and RINOs have been killing my country for years and they are doing it faster than ever.

Please vote for Trump.

Compelling!




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[Lucyhere]

So I prefer a civilized discussion. I do not hurl insults at people just because I can't change their minds - only they can do that. So lets be civil!!

PEF... I think you know that I feel the same way... which I said earlier in this thread.

That said, I read the link you posted today re Zerohedge. I read all the way down to the bottom of the page to the comment section. I'm embarrassed for every Jewish person on this forum; as well as every Catholic person. Did you see (or read about) the blank looks and not so hushed boos at the John Smith dinner (which raises money for children) when DT spoke? I don't think anyone could believe what he said and that he actually said what he did.

Are you even remotely aware what Zerohedge is all about? It's the most racist, anti-semetic piece of crap I've read in a long time. The comment section was full of racist, anti-semetic comments, and filled to the brim with hate. Is this the kind of America/World we want? I hope not.

[PEF]

Hi Lucy - I was not talking about you when I wrote that. You have always been civil.

As for Zerohedge, I get a lot of info that the MSM would never talk about. Not all of it is accurate. But they do effectively point out how corrupt our leaders and the banking system is. I like that they stick it in the eye of the establishment.

I also don't think the authors have anything against Jewish people or Catholics. Maybe you have read too much of the MSM saying that everyone they don't like is racist. I read the piece you posted about opinions of Zerohedge. Of course there are a lot of people in power who don't want Zerohedge have a platform. However, it is extremely popular. I read alternative media sites, many of them, because I know I can't get the truth from the MSM.

As for the comment section, I rarely read it. I expect a lot of angry people to have angry opinions. Please don't read that if it bothers you.

[Gasper62]

Here's a rather plausible explanation of the whole Clinton email debacle. (and her annoyingly aloof demeanor ! ) https://medium.com/the-curious-civilian ... .lymoaeadr - Much more plausible than the 22,000,000 emails "lost" by those lizards, G.W. Bush & Dickface Cheney >> http://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/23/geor ... 97373.html OK, Trumpsters (conspiracy sheep), explain this one away. I'm dyin' to hear it.

[Goofproof]

Has Hillery dropped out of the race yet, missed her daily lie, maybe she was hunting her emails. Jim

[SleepyMcgee]

Hi Lucy - I was not talking about you when I wrote that. You have always been civil.

As for Zerohedge, I get a lot of info that the MSM would never talk about. Not all of it is accurate. But they do effectively point out how corrupt our leaders and the banking system is. I like that they stick it in the eye of the establishment.

I also don't think the authors have anything against Jewish people or Catholics. Maybe you have read too much of the MSM saying that everyone they don't like is racist. I read the piece you posted about opinions of Zerohedge. Of course there are a lot of people in power who don't want Zerohedge have a platform. However, it is extremely popular. I read alternative media sites, many of them, because I know I can't get the truth from the MSM.

As for the comment section, I rarely read it. I expect a lot of angry people to have angry opinions. Please don't read that if it bothers you.

Without blaming another media site or the reader that points it out...Why do you think places like zerohedge attract so many anti semites and xenophobes?


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[Sylvia54]

I don't think anything at this point can "solve the problem". It may not even matter who becomes President. The President has a lot less real power than most people think. I have no idea what type of President Trump would be. I do know one thing. That is not to believe the propaganda against Trump. Just because a bunch of ignorant people call Trump a "Hitler" does not make it true. This is a smear created by the mainstream media.

But what is very clear to me is that Hillary is the most corrupt individual who has ever aspired to the Presidency. She has demonstrated this over her many years in Government. I did not like what went on under Obama and I expect Hillary to be more of the same.

As I have said from the beginning, there are no good choices in this election. But either Trump or Hillary will win. I feel very strongly against Hillary because I think I know what that will bring. I prefer to take my chances with Trump.

You may choose differently, that is up to you.

Trump is clearly the lesser of the two evils. Hillary with her law degree background is a compulsive liar and cheater, who should be in jail for what she's done in the past. If she gets in, we can kiss our healthcare system (as we know it) good bye and so can the Canadians who come down here to use it. Her husband is a pervert who disgraced this country in the 1990's. To have him back in the White House as a dirty old man would be totally repulsive. Trump is one of the few with no law degree so he never learned the polished politically correct games that are played by most of the others. He doesn't accept bribes from the likes of George Soros. He's not been bought and paid for by large corporations and Globalists. It's been a breath of fresh air to hear much of what comes out of his mouth. With him there will be no shadow government.

I just want a leader who will stop the constant flow of less than desirables crossing our borders day by day; the drugs, the human trafficking, and who knows what else is sneaking in with their weapons. Immigration has gotten way out of control. I want to see all illegals who we've been feeding in our prisons RETURNED TO SENDER. Only Trump will follow through with that. I'm tired of the massive numbers of foreigners being brought in to mooch off the rest of us who've been working and paying into the system for decades. Many of these people will never be loyal to this country and have no problem accepting the handouts that should be going to our veterans, elderly and disabled who at the same time are being shortchanged of promised entitlements, being cut back to bare bones existance, or cut off entirely. If you want more of a chance to live in poverty, vote Hillary. If you want to lose your freedom of speech, vote Hillary. If you want less opportunity to advance and a lesser quality of life for your own children and grandchildren, vote Hillary.

[SleepyMcgee]

I just want a leader who will stop the constant flow of less than desirables crossing our borders day by day; the drugs, the human trafficking, and who knows what else is sneaking in with their weapons. Immigration has gotten out of control. I want to see all illegals who we've been feeding in our prisons RETURNED TO SENDER. Only Trump will follow through with that. I'm tired of the massive numbers of foreigners being brought in to mooch off the rest of us who've been working and paying into the system for decades. Many of these people will never be loyal to this country and have no problem accepting the handouts that should be going to our veterans, elderly and disabled who at the same time are being shortchanged of promised entitlements, being cut back to bare bones existance, or cut off entirely. If you want more of a chance to live in poverty, vote Hillary. If you want to lose your freedom of speech, vote Hillary. If you want less opportunity to advance and a lesser quality of life for your own children and grandchildren, vote Hillary.

I'm assuming you are aware that the number of deportations MATERIALLY INCREASED over the last 8 years and that illegal immigrants pay over $12 billion in taxes every year?

I also am guessing you know that spending on veterans has MATERIALLY INCREASED over the last 8 years as well?

Not saying there isnt an immigration issue or vetererns issue...But just wanted to make sure that at least the base level facts were being applied to your analysis.

[nanwilson]

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I just want a leader who will stop the constant flow of less than desirables crossing our borders day by day; the drugs, the human trafficking, and who knows what else is sneaking in with their weapons. Immigration has gotten way out of control. I want to see all illegals who we've been feeding in our prisons RETURNED TO SENDER. Only Trump will follow through with that. I'm tired of the massive numbers of foreigners being brought in to mooch off the rest of us who've been working and paying into the system for decades. Many of these people will never be loyal to this country and have no problem accepting the handouts that should be going to our veterans, elderly and disabled who at the same time are being shortchanged of promised entitlements, being cut back to bare bones existance, or cut off entirely. If you want more of a chance to live in poverty, vote Hillary. If you want to lose your freedom of speech, vote Hillary. If you want less opportunity to advance and a lesser quality of life for your own children and grandchildren, vote Hillary.[/quote]

I get a big kick out of folks who complain about immigrants coming into their country... be it yours or mine. It seems to me that at one time or another you or your ancestors were immigrants too. Unless you are 100% native, then you too come from IMMIGRANT ancestors I'm sure that when our ancestors came to either U.S. or Canada, the folks that came before were spouting off the same rhetoric.
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[Julie]

Exactly... why you choose to see people wanting a decent life as 'undesirables' because Trump calls them that (and a lot worse) is lousy. You need to stop parroting everything he says - think for yourself for a change!