I picked up BiPap from Apria (different mask than expected)

[Lucyhere]

Don't you think you have hi-jacked enough threads lately...

Yes, and it's finally stopped people from piling on Enchanter... mission accomplished... at least temporarily. <smile>

[Sonnyboy]

Journalist? Really, lets see something you have had published.

Certainly, and I'll also give you the names of the papers, the date and the page. I'll also include my name.

Cool it already. Don't you agree that the horrific happening in France is enough for today?

YES!!! The horrific happenings in France IS enough for today... and if you would stop answering every post with a snide remark folks could get on with it. Don't you think you have hi-jacked enough threads lately to turn everyone off of YOU. Your true colors have shown up enough already.
Go away and stay away this time, no one needs your sarcasm and stupidity.

+10000

[Goofproof]

This thread needs to be closed. It is not helpful to anyone, at least after page 2. If you have nothing to give to the poster, KEEP YOUR KEYBOARD SILENT. I don't know Enchanter, but seeing as he has not weighed in on this gives rise to the fact the thread is WAYoff topic. Can't we all just get along?

If you spent enough time reading here, you would know, that's not how things operate here, and you aren't going to change them, every noobies tries.

Two solutions, use your off switch, start and pay for your own forum, otherwise don't load what you don't like. Jim

[Goofproof]

Now, if you wish to merit even a shred of credibility, you'll name the source of this "information" you're quoting (and now having changed!).

Happy to do this for ya, Originally posted 11/08/15 on cpaptalk.com. - two corrections 11/13/15 - no FN for me.

In my years as a journalist I have noted there are those people who are able to speak and write with great ease, class and sophistication; while others toss about curse words and childish cartoons. This is because they have no idea how to create a simple sentence. Their command of (for purposes of this article) the English language, is questionable at best. They have no idea how to express themselves. Being articulate is beyond their understanding or ability. They are the bullies.

To cover up their inadequacies, they attempt to show off by belittling others with childish one-liners; at the same time attempting to solicit followers. They believe themselves to be clever when instead they are cowardly and uncultured, all the while hiding behind a computer screen. People don't generally know one another on internet forums. Who they claim to be and their name is inconsequential. A help forum is to help people. The only thing that needs to be known is the issue that brought them there. Additional information is not needed and serves no purpose. What is crucial is how they address one another; how the question is asked and even more important, the way in which it is answered.

It's been widely noted that many people who hang around on help forums long after they have received the information they need, have no understanding that their mentality is that of cult culture and they are identical to the bullies one sees on television or reads about in newspapers. In this case, they use vulgar words and innuendos, instead of guns or knives. Their aim is to intimidate in the hopes of having people join their cult. Join with them or you might find yourself on the outside, thus becoming the subject of their bullying and intimidation. Many in this cult are unhappy in their everyday lives and find enjoyment in this cult type culture. Interestingly, they know precisely what they want to accomplish and who they want to join forces with them. They are the bullies.

Then there are the others, a/k/a the bullied. Those people generally come (to a forum) with good intentions and get blindsighted. Instead of surveying the atmosphere and opting out, they believe they can fix it, which seldom happens. When they attempt to be civil, they are met with intimidation and tasteless remarks, and the cycle continues until it finally reaches a point of forum hysteria.

This in no way includes those genuine people who remain on forums to pay it forward. The differences between a cult member and someone who remains to pay it forward are immense and almost immediately noticeable. Generally, the pay it forward types do not intimidate or belittle; instead they are welcoming and happy to share the wisdom they possess.

Bullies on the other hand thoroughly enjoy their stay and tend to hang around for years. The internet becomes a best friend and here the bullies find a false sense of power. The internet is where they can lash out and not be found out, which is the primary reason that bullying exists on any forum.

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Anyone who writes "for the purpose of this article" when responding to a forum post is so full of shit (and full of themselves) that the majority ,oops, I mean most, of the folks here can smell you coming.

Journalist? Really, lets see something you have had published.

Do letters to the editors, in the local newspaper count, or ad's on Craigslist, if not viewing will be slim. Jim

[BleepingBeauty]

This thread needs to be closed. It is not helpful to anyone, at least after page 2. If you have nothing to give to the poster, KEEP YOUR KEYBOARD SILENT. I don't know Enchanter, but seeing as he has not weighed in on this gives rise to the fact the thread is WAYoff topic. Can't we all just get along?

You're a noob, so you're forgiven. (Welcome to the forum, btw.) This site is like the Wild West of forums, self-moderated 99+% of the time (and we like that; the freedom to exchange information is unlimited here - unlike every other xpap forum I know of). The obvious benefit of that fact far outweighs the occasional squabble.

I'd advise you to read Enchanter's history on the forum (and while you're at it, look at the history of ems/Worldwar2/Lucyhere/etc.) to see the dynamics at work. You'll gain an understanding of why people respond as they do.

Don't you think you have hi-jacked enough threads lately...

Yes, and it's finally stopped people from piling on Enchanter... mission accomplished... at least temporarily. <smile>

[Goofproof]

Bullying, I don't think you modern socialists know what real bullying is. ISIS, is a bully, not posting on this forum, the kid picking a fight, just because he is is bigger and meaner, is a bully. You can't bully me on the internet, if you could find me, and tried that face to face, it would be your loss. I know how to deal with bullies, they are cowards, you hit them hard enough, you can knock the bully right out of them. If it doesn't you haven't hit them hard enough or long enough. Repeat!

You bleeding poitical correct socialists have no idea about what a bully is, and wouldn't get your hands dirty trying to stop one! You can't bully anyone on a forum, they have the off switch in their hands, as do we all. Jim

[Julie]

Jim, we're all familiar with your politics, and how far right you are, but even for you, that last para. leaves a little to be desired (never mind the misspelling), and name calling/insulting others for their beliefs (just as righteous as yours) is unnecessary. I respect your right to be 'right', but you don't seem to know where the line is - or do you really want to be Trump's spokesperson of the day?

[Goofproof]

I'd be proud, compared to MOST of his challengers, maybe a little crazy would be good for the country, we have had all the change we can stand.

Part of the spelling is auto correct, it spells even worse than I do...

P.C. isn't just a buggy operating system anymore, it the downfall of a once great country. Jim

[Goofproof]

Just a little history, this is a country of imigrants, go back far enough, even the white race, came to the new world, to escape persecution and make a better life for our offspring. We formed a country and set up rules of law.

Not everything we have done was fair to everyone, life isn't ever fair. We worked to make life better, something that is called stupid and dirty nowdays. Nowdays it's P.C. to let the government take from the working and give it to the non-working. The problem is the non-working are drain more out than the working can replace. The $17, trillion debt is being shifted to our children and older population that mistakenly did work, the bubble is going to burst.

Sorry I'm not going any farther into Economy 101, never even took the class, I studied Common Sense 101, I had the full course and a good teacher,
Professor Life!

Enjoy your flawed PC, I'm going Android! Jim

[flightco]

Bullying, I don't think you modern socialists know what real bullying is. ISIS, is a bully, not posting on this forum, the kid picking a fight, just because he is is bigger and meaner, is a bully. You can't bully me on the internet, if you could find me, and tried that face to face, it would be your loss. I know how to deal with bullies, they are cowards, you hit them hard enough, you can knock the bully right out of them. If it doesn't you haven't hit them hard enough or long enough. Repeat!

You bleeding poitical correct socialists have no idea about what a bully is, and wouldn't get your hands dirty trying to stop one! You can't bully anyone on a forum, they have the off switch in their hands, as do we all. Jim

Jim, I really think we need to create safe spaces within the forum where only people who agree with us can frequent and make comments that way we will never have to deal with a different point of view

[DWaldman]

Sorry... (leaves room with tail tucked between legs)

[flightco]

Sorry... (leaves room with tail tucked between legs)

Don't worry about it, you are not the first and won't be the last. I think she was just saying don't let it concern you because it is not going to change. Lot's of good stuff here in spite of the infighting. It appears we cannot "just get along" because Apnea, like cancer is indiscriminate in its choice of victims and we are very different, politically, socially, religiously, etc.; it is just that apnea and a desire to learn and help brought us together; but no, it does not appear that we are going to get along.

[Sir NoddinOff]

It appears we cannot "just get along" because Apnea, like cancer is indiscriminate in its choice of victims and we are very different, politically, socially, religiously, etc.; it is just that apnea and a desire to learn and help brought us together; but no, it does not appear that we are going to get along.

Sad, but probably true.

[Madalot]

Sorry... (leaves room with tail tucked between legs)

Don't worry about it, you are not the first and won't be the last. I think she was just saying don't let it concern you because it is not going to change. Lot's of good stuff here in spite of the infighting. It appears we cannot "just get along" because Apnea, like cancer is indiscriminate in its choice of victims and we are very different, politically, socially, religiously, etc.; it is just that apnea and a desire to learn and help brought us together; but no, it does not appear that we are going to get along.

Sad, but probably true.

Yep, but some try a lot harder than others!!

[Goofproof]

Bullying, I don't think you modern socialists know what real bullying is. ISIS, is a bully, not posting on this forum, the kid picking a fight, just because he is is bigger and meaner, is a bully. You can't bully me on the internet, if you could find me, and tried that face to face, it would be your loss. I know how to deal with bullies, they are cowards, you hit them hard enough, you can knock the bully right out of them. If it doesn't you haven't hit them hard enough or long enough. Repeat!

You bleeding poitical correct socialists have no idea about what a bully is, and wouldn't get your hands dirty trying to stop one! You can't bully anyone on a forum, they have the off switch in their hands, as do we all. Jim

Jim, I really think we need to create safe spaces within the forum where only people who agree with us can frequent and make comments that way we will never have to deal with a different point of view

I have lots of old hard drives, maybe I could donate one to the forum, to store the threads on, so they won't contaminate, the thinking or lack of thinking of others.

But that would probably just start another argument. We would have to decide size and speed and which faction would get which one.

Of course Socialists would get the biggest one, I have a big slow one!
Liberals could have a medium sized, but it would have to run on wind power, no problems there!
Conservative's, could have the smallest one, as what they say is no longer taken seriously. But since it's been around so long and served us well so long, we better have it running on nuclear power. Jim