Fort Hood Shooter - Ambien and Sleep Disorder

[OhHelpMe]

Reports that he had sleep disorders and depression and was taking Ambien - http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/02/us/fort-h ... r-profile/

He has a weak chin and fat under the chin. I wonder if he had undiagnosed sleep apnea that drove him totally nuts????

Doctors are very bad about overlooking sleep apnea.

[ems]

Weak chin... fat chin... ridiculous and unnecessary thread!

[Christine L]

Weak chin... fat chin... ridiculous and unnecessary thread!

It only became a thread when you replied. Before that it was a single post.

V: I am certain untreated sleep apnea greatly increases the risk for PTSD.

Interesting. I had never thought about this - none of my family members have been in combat. But it makes sense if you don't sleep well you are more likely to have emotional problems.

[krassus]

People can do some crazy stuff while on Ambien. My fiance broke up with me because I was not very much like Edward from Twilight while she was on ambien, and the next day I was planning how I was going to move out all my stuff and she didn't remember it at all and didn't feel that way at all! (we are still together like 6 years later and I am still not like Edward)

A buddy of mine left my apartment years ago after taking some ambien and turned left about 20 yards early trying to leave my parking lot straight into a hillside. We dragged him inside and put him on the couch, poor fellow.

The shooting is a little different, because I assume bringing the gun onto the base required some premeditation unless he had some kind of security job on the base, and from what I understand he had been in an argument about not getting leave time earlier in the day with one of the men he shot.

Now who knows, though, if sleep apnea could have been contributing to his depression and anxiety? Certainly possible.

[jaye8898]

It's an awful tragedy. I doubt that even if he had problems with sleep apnea, it was the sole contributor for his actions. Ambien is a scary drug and this man had been in combat. Sounds like there was a lot going on in his life. He had just lost his mother and his father is seriously ill. It sounds like for some reason, everything came to a head. He and all the other victims and their families need our prayers.

[chunkyfrog]

PTSD, and there was talk he had never been in combat? Odd.
Of course, I think I may have had it from apnea, but the voices in my head never told me to shoot anyone.
I did put Post-its on the bottoms of my co-workers' mice, though.

[Guest]

PTSD, and there was talk he had never been in combat? Odd.

no not at all
ptsd comes from witnessing a traumatic event
can come from being in a car accident
or the guilt one feels if a friend commits suicide
like why didnt i notice

his could be part of depression for not being at his moms funeral

we may never hear the truth
but i would say whoever refused him leave to attend family funerals played a huge role in this
if he was not is a combat role there is prob no reason he should have been denied

emergency leave is certainly not free time
but comes out of the soldiers accrued leave of 30 day each year

like i said we may never hear the whole truth

[49er]

http://therenodispatch.blogspot.com/201 ... g-our.html

49er

[Guest]

therenodispatch. blogspot. com/2012/10/prescription-drugs-are-killling-our. html

49er

do as i say not as i do

Todz, as an fyi, when you provide a link that has a very long article in response to concerns someone has raised as Julie did in this situation, it might be helpful to highlight the part of the article that is relevant. As someone who has difficulty even reading reasonably length articles for various reasons, I found find that very helpful.

49er

[49er]

therenodispatch. blogspot. com/2012/10/prescription-drugs-are-killling-our. html

49er

do as i say not as i do

Todz, as an fyi, when you provide a link that has a very long article in response to concerns someone has raised as Julie did in this situation, it might be helpful to highlight the part of the article that is relevant. As someone who has difficulty even reading reasonably length articles for various reasons, I found find that very helpful.

49er

Fair point guest. In a nutshell, I think my point is by posting the link to this article that we need to be looking at why a great percentage of troops are on psych meds and being sent into combat. Also, why are people with suspected PTSD like this guy being loaded on a combination of meds without any counseling that I know of.

Also, since they are known to cause severe adverse affects in a certain vulnerable subset, that needs to be looked at. Unfortunately, neither political party wants to touch that and sadly, it is business as usual.

49er

[Guest]

Unfortunately, neither political party wants to touch that and sadly, it is business as usual.

that is not and should not be political
that comes under DoD

[Goofproof]

Crazy is as Crazy does, good thing he's in the U.S.A., that means it's not his fault. Nothing is ever our fault! Jim

[49er]

Unfortunately, neither political party wants to touch that and sadly, it is business as usual.

that is not and should not be political
that comes under DoD

You're right, it shouldn't be political but it is in my opinion. Do you really think the DoD is non political?

On a related note, here is an article about pharmaceutical influence in the Department of Defense.

http://www.publicintegrity.org/2009/06/ ... ree-travel

And yes, I am being a hypocrite and letting you search the article yourself without highlighting anything.

49er

[chunkyfrog]

I guess we'll never know now; he's dead.

[ems]

On a related note, here is an article about pharmaceutical influence in the Department of Defense.

http://www.publicintegrity.org/2009/06/ ... ree-travel

And yes, I am being a hypocrite and letting you search the article yourself without highlighting anything.

49er

Don't worry about it 49er... I'm a big girl and I can easily read the article you posted and so can everyone else. If people are so inclined to highlight, great... if not no big deal.

What I find disconcerting is that someone would find it necessary to start this thread and post this picture. Not one person in the entire world will ever know the real motive behind this horrific happening. Why guess? What purpose does it serve? Could be because of this... could be because of that... could be because of a full moon. My point is that there is no point. My hope is that all the families involved find some sort of peace... which turns out to be the consensus in the many PMs that I received.