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Post by weary traveler » Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:03 am

I need to know if there is any way to meet compliance without useing the machine the full 70%..... I don t require a lot of sleep and have been useing the machine for about a month, I get two to three hours of good sleep with the machine that fully rests me and I feel great I get my rem sleep and feel so much better from the use of the cpap after going many years without any sleep to speak of. Even though I use the cpap I am not in compliance for my insurance, is there any way I can get the sd card to show that I am compliant so I don t lose my machine.......thx

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Re: compliance

Post by ironhands » Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:12 am

I believe that would constitute insurance fraud.

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Re: compliance

Post by library lady » Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:29 am

The card shows your daily use; even if there were a way to add additional hours now it would still show noncompliance. And ditto what ironhands said... insurance fraud... which, I might add, brings the cost of insurance up for everyone. If you are not using the machine more than a couple hours a day, you are not getting a cure as there is no cure for apnea, only treatment.

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Re: compliance

Post by Pugsy » Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:34 am

If you wear the mask and use the machine while awake...like watching TV...that will count as hours used.
There is no way to fool the machine if you aren't breathing into it. It can run without your breathing but it reports as "no breathing detected" and won't count for hours used.
The rules say use it for 4 hours a day for 70 % of a 30 day period (most insurance)...it doesn't say you have to be asleep when you use it those 4 hours. The machine doesn't know if you are asleep or not but it does know if you are attached to it and breathing.

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Re: compliance

Post by Julie » Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:32 am

And besides which, do you really think you're getting enough good sleep on only 2-3 hrs of Cpap? Maybe it's been so long that you've forgotten (if you ever knew) what being awake feels like.

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Re: compliance

Post by BlackSpinner » Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:41 am

When you are sleeping you use the mask, when you are in bed use the mask. Most humans require 6-8 hours of sleep per night. Start working on that.

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Re: compliance

Post by Ford Guy » Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:10 pm

weary traveler wrote:I need to know if there is any way to meet compliance without useing the machine the full 70%..... I don t require a lot of sleep and have been useing the machine for about a month, I get two to three hours of good sleep with the machine that fully rests me and I feel great I get my rem sleep and feel so much better from the use of the cpap after going many years without any sleep to speak of. Even though I use the cpap I am not in compliance for my insurance, is there any way I can get the sd card to show that I am compliant so I don t lose my machine.......thx
If you are getting 2-3 hours of "good sleep"....what is waking you up? I would think that if you are sleeping that well you would not wake up that soon. What do you do for the rest of the night? How do you know you are getting your rem sleep?
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Re: compliance

Post by Todzo » Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:29 pm

weary traveler wrote:I need to know if there is any way to meet compliance without useing the machine the full 70%..... I don t require a lot of sleep and have been useing the machine for about a month, I get two to three hours of good sleep with the machine that fully rests me and I feel great I get my rem sleep and feel so much better from the use of the cpap after going many years without any sleep to speak of. Even though I use the cpap I am not in compliance for my insurance, is there any way I can get the sd card to show that I am compliant so I don t lose my machine.......thx
simpy you need to honestly make the hours

Something that may well help with that is to simply walk. I think a pedometer is a good tool to help with that. Any drug store, target, wal-mart, sports store.

You need to walk until you feel quite honestly tired - and then stop. The idea is to make you honestly tired and that is all. Not fast, no conditioning, just "keep it moving" until tired. You will likely sleep better and longer and that is a win win to keep your machine.

I do hope this helps.
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Re: compliance

Post by robysue » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:32 pm

weary traveler wrote:I need to know if there is any way to meet compliance without useing the machine the full 70%..... I don t require a lot of sleep and have been useing the machine for about a month, I get two to three hours of good sleep with the machine that fully rests me and I feel great I get my rem sleep and feel so much better from the use of the cpap after going many years without any sleep to speak of.
Are you using the machine every time you sleep for the full sleep period?

If you are sleeping part of the time or most of the time without CPAP, then you need to work on using it every time you sleep for the full sleep period, and compliance should not become a huge issue.

If you really are only sleeping 2 or 3 hours a night consistently, that's a whole different can of worms. If the fact that you only sleep 2 or 3 hours out of every 24 hour day can be documented, then it may be that the sleep doc can write a letter explaining that you are using the machine 100% of the time you are asleep and ask the insurance company to take that into account. But long term, it's hard to imagine that you are really getting enough sleep to function with if you are only getting 2-3 hours per 24 hour day.

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Re: compliance

Post by Gary_UT » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:01 pm

You could try my method.

The first week I would look at the clock when I went to bed and put the mask on, I would not take it off for at least 4 hours.

Every week I would set a goal to keep it on for at least another hour, after 3 weeks I was keeping it on all night.



I wanted to keep working and had to get compliant within the first 30 days to keep my DOT medical card. I had a good incentive.

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Re: compliance

Post by Snufflewrinkle » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:49 pm

i wear my CPAP all the time when sleeping, been doing so for the past few years. I had progressed on the types of mask I use but I keep on the machine even whist napping! No machine means a feeling *legs* doing a dance on my dome!* legs*=toy octopus who sleeps with me.