Advice Needed-Is my machine going nuts?

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Advice Needed-Is my machine going nuts?

Post by NateS » Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:28 pm

Here are my graphs and stats on a normal, typical day:

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Now here is the type of graph I am getting now about once or twice a week:

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What happened to Leak and Pressure on the Resscan graphs?

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What do the strange lines mean on the SleepyHead charts?



What happened to Leak and Pressure on the Resscan graphs?

What do the strange lines mean on the SleepyHead charts?

What happened to my normal graphs?

Can anyone tell me what's going on? Is my machine going nuts?

Does it require repair?

Any guidance would be most appreciated.

Thanks,

Regards, Nate

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Re: Is my machine going nuts?

Post by sleepstar » Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:58 pm

I don't know that program. But the scales are wrong... -60,000? Does this program allow you to change the scale...?

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Re: Advice Needed-Is my machine going nuts?

Post by NateS » Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:05 pm

Notice that "Leak" and "Pressure" disappears on the ResScan graphs.

Also , what do the perpendicular "rocket-launch" lines and the 45-degree rising lines mean on the SleepyHead graphs?

And everytime I get one of these crazy charts, things seem to go back to normal the next day, then a few days later it happens again!




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Re: Advice Needed-Is my machine going nuts?

Post by NateS » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:12 am

Here's what I'm getting this morning on ResScan:

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And SleepyHead won't even import this morning's data.

Nate

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Re: Advice Needed-Is my machine going nuts?

Post by rosacer » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:25 am

Hi Nat

Have you tried to reset the machine lately?

Mine was doing weir stuff too not recording the flow charts properly or at all.

I reset it ( disconnect the machine a couple of minutes) and I changed the SD card just in case. Now it has been behaving. I haven't disconnected my machine for several months. I don't know what fixed the problem but it is working well since 2 weeks.

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Re: Is my machine going nuts?

Post by archangle » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:25 am

sleepstar wrote:I don't know that program. But the scales are wrong... -60,000? Does this program allow you to change the scale...?
SleepyHead is an open source program written by one of our users.

It's vastly superior to Encore, and somewhat superior to ResScan in some ways, but it's still being developed and has some bugs. The authors are working on fixing and updating it.

It's a great tool for viewing things, even if you use ResScan or Encore for "official" results.

Check the links in my signature line for how to find it.

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Re: Advice Needed-Is my machine going nuts?

Post by Pugsy » Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:16 am

sleepstar wrote:I don't know that program. But the scales are wrong... -60,000? Does this program allow you to change the scale...?
Actually SleepyHead does allow for scale changing but in this instance what you see is not what we normally see and something weird is going on. This isn't typical for SleepyHead at all.
I have links for SleepyHead information in my signature line if you want to check it out.

I am thinking Nate needs to pull the plug and reboot his machine...see if that changes anything.
Maybe even do a reset to zero of therapy hours and start fresh if reboot and subsequent reports are still whacko.
And if that doesn't work...well...not looking good for machine reporting health.

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Re: Advice Needed-Is my machine going nuts?

Post by NateS » Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:35 am

Thank you, Rosacer and Pugsy!

I will pull the plug and try a reboot and report back!

Also will scrounge around here for a another SD card.

Regards, Nate

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Re: Advice Needed-Is my machine going nuts?

Post by Sir NoddinOff » Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:43 am

NateS wrote:Thank you, Rosacer and Pugsy!

I will pull the plug and try a reboot and report back!

Also will scrounge around here for a another SD card.

Regards, Nate
Nate: That must be frustrating to have no data. I did note that you're using a VPAP Adapt, which is the cutting edge of the commercial ventilator technology. I suspect that's part of the reason. Let us know if the 'reset' works, please.

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Re: Advice Needed-Is my machine going nuts?

Post by NateS » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:42 am

Still struggling to figure out what's going on and is it my machine, my SD card or the software. I pulled the plug on my machine and restarted it - problem still persists. I reformatted my SD card (because I haven't found a spare 2gb around here) - problem still persists.

On ResScan, the stats look right:

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but the graphs look weird:

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as if I only slept for half an hour. Actually, that half hour is when I turned the machine back on after a quick bathroom trip. But I slept the night before then.

(The fact that it's dated tomorrow is not new - it always has done that. That's not the problem.

Nate

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Re: Advice Needed-Is my machine going nuts?

Post by NateS » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:53 am

Now here I am with SleepyHead for the same night.

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Note that the one vertical "rocket" line has screwed up the maximums on the graphs, even though I still have the min/max settings set right in Preferences/Options.

Does anyone see anything odd in my settings or my stats on the left which might be a clue?

Nate

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Re: Advice Needed-Is my machine going nuts?

Post by Pugsy » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:57 am

Since both software programs are whacko...I don't think it is the software programs. One maybe but not both.
I think it is the machine's internal firmware/software and however it is supposed to write things to the SD card.
Only thing I can think of is to try a formal reset of therapy data to zero and see if that jump starts the machine into recording properly again.
I don't think it is related to any settings. I think it is the machine in the sense that it is writing whacko stuff for some reason to the SD card.

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Re: Advice Needed-Is my machine going nuts?

Post by NateS » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:07 am

Pugsy wrote:Since both software programs are whacko...I don't think it is the software programs. One maybe but not both.
I think it is the machine's internal firmware/software and however it is supposed to write things to the SD card.
Only thing I can think of is to try a formal reset of therapy data to zero and see if that jump starts the machine into recording properly again.
I don't think it is related to any settings. I think it is the machine in the sense that it is writing whacko stuff for some reason to the SD card.
Thanks for this suggestion, Pugsy! Can you elaborate a little on how to do "a formal reset of therapy data to zero" as I don't want to do anything wrong?

How do I do it?

What will be the machine settings after it is done?

Will I have to reset all the settings on my machine afterward, like all the pressure settings etc.? If so, will I need to write down all the settings in all the menus before doing it?

Thanks, Nate

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Re: Advice Needed-Is my machine going nuts?

Post by Pugsy » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:15 am

Reset of therapy hours reverts all settings back to factory defaults so yes...you would have to reset everything so you want to make sure you write them down.

Reset is in the clinical menu setup area.
Configuration menu..."erase data" couple of lines below Language selection.
It erases all your therapy data and will reset the hours to zero. Total run hours on the machine is not changed though.

Now there is a "restore defaults" choice...it will reset all the settings and not erase the data...you might try that first if you want to.

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Re: Advice Needed-Is my machine going nuts?

Post by NateS » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:41 am

Pugsy, an afterthought question before proceeding:

Doesn't it seem strange that all the Statistics seem to be reporting correctly on both ResScan and SleepyHead, and yet the graphs are wrong?

Is the graphing data recorded separately and independently from the statistics?

Nate

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