Cold nights, rainout, and all that jazz

[renatae]

It's been getting pretty cold here at night and I'm not too excited about having that cold air blowing in my nose and on my hands!

I'm planning to get the ClimateLine hose for my s9 when I'm able, at my three-month mark. Currently, my humidity setting is at 4, I have a SnuggleHose, and I'm still getting rainout.

How many of you have found the ClimateLine an improvement for these issues? I have started warming up my humidifier in advance, and I've noticed a little change for the better, but overall, my nose is cold and when I take off my mask, it is wet. Ugh!

[Trouba]

I run mine at the max temp 86 with the climate hose and my bedroom temp is between 60-65 ( I like it COOL ) hose is absolutely dry with no hose cover. At those settings my humidifier tank is approximately 2/3 empty after 6.5-7.5 hours, bedroom humidity level is 40 percent.

[Sheriff Buford]

Make sure the cpap unit is below your head. Water can't run up hill. Sheriff

[Always tired]

Currently, my humidity setting is at 4, I have a SnuggleHose, and I'm still getting rainout.

I had my humidifier set on 4 all Summer and Fall and use the SnuggleHose too, but changed to 3 after noticing more rainout and the wet nose in Winter. Now rainout is almost gone. If you do get the heated hose I'm guessing the directions will say do not use a hose cover. I tried the Hybernite, but the uncovered hose bothered me so I settled for regular hose and a Snuggle.
Try your humidifier on 2 or 3.

[JO'M]

Climateline helps a lot. I took my regular hose when I was on holidays recently and I woke up each morning to a wet face. I had the humidifier set to 2.5- 3 and it was probably about 18 in the room.

Once I was home and switched back to the climate line, no issues. The humidity is normally set at 3.5 and the hose temp 23.5. The temp in my bedroom is 16-17.

[Suzjohnson]

Began having the same problem as the weather cooled so tried to use the Climateline hose. However, the weight of the darn thing continually pulled my little, lightweight nasal mask away creating horrendous leaking. So, back to the regular hose which I have been draping over my body, under the covers. My problem with this solution is that the hose gets nudged out as I move around in bed. I've ordered one of those hose management thingies, finally, and will re-attach the Climateline hose. Hopefully this will be the fix I've needed all along. I wish you well finding a solution! Rainout is not fun.

Suz

[ChicagoGranny]

Make sure the cpap unit is below your head. Water can't run up hill. Sheriff

So simple! Yet seldom recommended.

[Denial Dave]

I am using a climate line hose, temp set at 81 and humidity set at 4. I've never experienced rain out. My machine is about level with my head while sleeping.

[renatae]

Thanks so much for sharing your experiences and suggestions!

We're currently visiting our adult son and the machine is higher than the bed as there is no other place to put it except on the floor - I know this is contributing to my problem, which has definitely gotten worse in this situation, partially because the house is a lot colder than I keep mine.

[Sheriff Buford]

Thanks so much for sharing your experiences and suggestions!

We're currently visiting our adult son and the machine is higher than the bed as there is no other place to put it except on the floor - I know this is contributing to my problem, which has definitely gotten worse in this situation, partially because the house is a lot colder than I keep mine.

Try putting it on a stack of books or a milk crate. You can put them away during the day. Sheriff

[Linus]

A heated hose with a hose cover works very well for a cold room. Placement of the machine helps too. Sometimes all these efforts still result in some condensation. The mask itself can build up some droplets of water. I have had the mask build up some condensation this morning. Any suggestions? Ususally the condensation is there in the early morning.

[ChicagoGranny]

Thanks so much for sharing your experiences and suggestions!

We're currently visiting our adult son and the machine is higher than the bed as there is no other place to put it except on the floor - I know this is contributing to my problem, which has definitely gotten worse in this situation, partially because the house is a lot colder than I keep mine.

Maybe borrow a chair from the dining room overnight?

[ughwhatname]

Make sure the cpap unit is below your head. Water can't run up hill. Sheriff

I have an S9 with Climateline hose for my primary machine. On a business trip, I brought a travel machine with no Climateline hose. I parked the machine on the floor to avoid rainout which is something I'd never experienced... until that trip. I woke up multiple times with rainout, sadly. Water can run up hill!

[Pugsy]

Sometimes the rain out is from the moisture that we have in our own exhaled breath...especially with nasal pillow masks.
Even with a heated hose or a hose cozy when the bedroom temp is cool enough the moisture that goes with our exhaled breath into the nasal pillows can condense.
Machine placement may not help because the moisture is confined to the nasal pillows themselves. It will go back into the nose or spray your face through the vent holes long before it can travel down the hose into the machine. Been there and done that myself.

I use a Padacheek's barrel cozy for my Swift FX nasal pillows. It is super comfy next to my skin and the added insulation helps prevent the air inside the nasal pillow from condensing and releasing any moisture content.
You might be able to make something similar yourself...just be sure to leave the vent holes uncovered.
I am not very handy so I prefer to buy what Karen makes.
http://www.padacheek.com/PACSwiftII_Barrel_cozy.html

I am using the S9 with climateline hose right now. With my preferred humidity setting and my cold bedroom...if I didn't use the barrel cozy I sometimes would get a bit of rain out (despite using the climateline hose). So how much the Climateline hose will help depends on humidity setting and/or bedroom temp. It helps a lot...but if you end up like me with a cold bedroom, it may not offer total relief.

[renatae]

Thanks, everyone, for the continued discussion. Sorry it took me so long to remember to get back to you!

I lowered the humidity level to 3 and my son turned up the heat a bit and that solved my problem.

And, yes, water was running uphill a bit (or it was just moisture from ny nose.) My hose was draped from the headboard, and in order to do so, about a foot or foot and a half of it was strung upward. From there, it did go downward.

About another 3 weeks and I can order that Climateline!