Fat and Thin people with OSA
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Fat and Thin people with OSA
Hi just wondering do fat people suffer more from OSA rather than thin people and is losing alot of bodyweight say 112 pounds or 8 stone a way to cure somebody of their OSA problem - basically I weigh 280 lbs or 20 stone and have OSA but I have a goal to lose 112 pounds or 8 stone thus dropping my bodyweight by 40 % to a thin 12 stone do you think this might cure my OSA - has anyone else here on this forum cured their OSA with a BIG WEIGHT LOSS ?
Thanks a lot for any answers - it means alot - have a great day - Peter.
Thanks a lot for any answers - it means alot - have a great day - Peter.
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Great goal... GO FOR IT, as it will have significant general health benefits for you!DyingOnMyFeet wrote:I have a goal to lose 112 pounds or 8 stone thus dropping my bodyweight by 40 % to a thin 12 stone do you think this might cure my OSA
As to whether it might cure your OSA, there is one way to find it, DO IT! However, there is no guarantee that losing weight will cure your OSA
Cheers,
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Thanks for the encouragement Bill I will lose this weight and we will see if it cures my OSA or not pretty exciting thought I hope it does work one can only try - cheers Peterbillbolton wrote:Great goal... GO FOR IT, as it will have significant general health benefits for you!DyingOnMyFeet wrote:I have a goal to lose 112 pounds or 8 stone thus dropping my bodyweight by 40 % to a thin 12 stone do you think this might cure my OSA
As to whether it might cure your OSA, there is one way to find it, DO IT! However, there is no guarantee that losing weight will cure your OSA
Cheers,
Bill
Re: Fat and Thin people with OSA
Hey Peter
I read there is a huge % of men overweight who have OSA, if I remember well it was 80% or so and for women it was I think 50%. So, give it a shut you don't know maybe you will get rid of it.
All the best
Rosie
I read there is a huge % of men overweight who have OSA, if I remember well it was 80% or so and for women it was I think 50%. So, give it a shut you don't know maybe you will get rid of it.
All the best
Rosie
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Re: Fat and Thin people with OSA
Although weight can be a factor in OSA (neck size being an indication of risk), it is not always. In my case, I had a sleep study in 2002 during which I did not meet the criteria for OSA, though I was overweight. At the time, and for as long as I can remember, I have snored so loudly at night that few people have ever been able to sleep in the same room with me without earplugs. Anyone who has been through THAT stress with a partner will know how difficult it is.
However, I didn't meet the OSA criteria.
At a second sleep study in 2011, when I was heavier, my OSA was classified as severe, and I started cpap.
Now that I sleep silently, I can't imagine stopping cpap and going back to snoring like a freight train again, even if my OSA were "cured."
However, I didn't meet the OSA criteria.
At a second sleep study in 2011, when I was heavier, my OSA was classified as severe, and I started cpap.
Now that I sleep silently, I can't imagine stopping cpap and going back to snoring like a freight train again, even if my OSA were "cured."
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Re: Fat and Thin people with OSA
Hi Rosie - I found some good links concerning Obesity and that it is probably the most important risk factor for the development of OSA with dramatic improvement after weight reduction.rosacer wrote:Hey Peter
I read there is a huge % of men overweight who have OSA, if I remember well it was 80% or so and for women it was I think 50%. So, give it a shut you don't know maybe you will get rid of it.
All the best
Rosie
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1822 ... d_RVDocSum
Obesity is probably the most important risk factor for the development of OSA. Some 60-90% of adults with OSA are overweight, and the relative risk of OSA in obesity (BMI >29 kg/m(2)) is >or=10. Numerous studies have shown the development or worsening of OSA with increasing weight, as opposed to substantial improvement with weight reduction. There are several mechanisms responsible for the increased risk of OSA with obesity. These include reduced pharyngeal lumen size due to fatty tissue within the airway or in its lateral walls, decreased upper airway muscle protective force due to fatty deposits in the muscle, and reduced upper airway size secondary to mass effect of the large abdomen on the chest wall and tracheal traction. These mechanisms emphasize the great importance of fat accumulated in the abdomen and neck regions compared with the peripheral one. It is the abdomen much more than the thighs that affect the upper airway size and function. Hence, obesity is associated with increased upper airway collapsibility (even in nonapneic subjects), with dramatic improvement after weight reduction.
http://www.weightwatchers.com/util/art/ ... 611&sc=803
All the best I am losing this weight come hell or high water after reading the above - cheers Peter
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As usual, the government is wrong again. The size and structure of the airway is clearly the most important risk factor.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1822 ... d_RVDocSum
Obesity is probably the most important risk factor for the development of OSA.
A doctor wrote a book about this and one of his quotes is, "It's not the size of the neck on the outside, it's the size of the airway in the neck."
There are plenty of skinny people, myself included, who have OSA.
But yes, if OP can lose that weight she may find many wonderful benefits.
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ChicagoGranny wrote:As usual, the government is wrong again. The size and structure of the airway is clearly the most important risk factor.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1822 ... d_RVDocSum
Obesity is probably the most important risk factor for the development of OSA.
A doctor wrote a book about this and one of his quotes is, "It's not the size of the neck on the outside, it's the size of the airway in the neck."
There are plenty of skinny people, myself included, who have OSA.
But yes, if OP can lose that weight she may find many wonderful benefits.
G'day ChicagoGranny - if I cure my OSA by losing 112 pounds of bodyfat you'll be the first to hear about it - cheers Peter
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i'm thin and i was just diagnosed with OSA. my doctor was pretty surprised, saying he didn't expect a woman my age and weight to have OSA. i understand weight is a large factor but there are others as well.
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sleepnasta wrote:i'm thin and i was just diagnosed with OSA. my doctor was pretty surprised, saying he didn't expect a woman my age and weight to have OSA. i understand weight is a large factor but there are others as well.
G'day sleepnasta - only time will tell in my case we will have to see what happens after I lose 112 pounds of body fat until then we won't know either way weather or not the big weight loss cured my OSA - I know one thing for sure I did not have OSA several years ago when I was thin but sure as hell got it bad when I became very over weight - like I said only time will tell - cheers peter
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When first Dx'd I asked my neurologist if losing weight would help my OSA. She said not in my case - I have a very small throat opening, small jaw, mouth etc., but losing weight would have many other health benefits - just not for my OSA.
She did say that in SOME cases losing weight would HELP, but not cure OSA - it depends on what the problem area/s is/are causing the OSA symptoms.
Cheers,
xena
She did say that in SOME cases losing weight would HELP, but not cure OSA - it depends on what the problem area/s is/are causing the OSA symptoms.
Cheers,
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Of people who have weight loss surgery only 40 -50% get over their OSA.
For many people their weight is a symptom of OSA not a cause.
For many people their weight is a symptom of OSA not a cause.
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G'day Blackspinner - I like those odds 40 to 50 % chance at getting over my OSA is better than none at all - cheers PeterBlackSpinner wrote:Of people who have weight loss surgery only 40 -50% get over their OSA.
For many people their weight is a symptom of OSA not a cause.
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I was, based on BMI, "Obese" at 212 lbs for 5' 6" woman.
I lost 55 lbs with most of it body fat. It was a sturggle but I did it mostly for the sleep apnea thing that I'd been dealing with for years and not being able to tolerate CPAP. But it didn't make a lick of difference. Now, keep in mind that I had been told by all my doctors that weight loss was key. It was very disappointing to not have it happen. Unfortunately everyone is not the same so there you go.
I hope you can do it anyway and probably in your case it will do the trick.
I'm seriously thinking of taking up the didgeridoo. My neighbors will think they're down under.
I'd definitely say in my case it was a symptom not the cause.
I lost 55 lbs with most of it body fat. It was a sturggle but I did it mostly for the sleep apnea thing that I'd been dealing with for years and not being able to tolerate CPAP. But it didn't make a lick of difference. Now, keep in mind that I had been told by all my doctors that weight loss was key. It was very disappointing to not have it happen. Unfortunately everyone is not the same so there you go.
I hope you can do it anyway and probably in your case it will do the trick.
I'm seriously thinking of taking up the didgeridoo. My neighbors will think they're down under.
I'd definitely say in my case it was a symptom not the cause.
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DyingOnMyFeet wrote:Hi just wondering do fat people suffer more from OSA rather than thin people and is losing alot of bodyweight say 112 pounds or 8 stone a way to cure somebody of their OSA problem - basically I weigh 280 lbs or 20 stone and have OSA but I have a goal to lose 112 pounds or 8 stone thus dropping my bodyweight by 40 % to a thin 12 stone do you think this might cure my OSA - has anyone else here on this forum cured their OSA with a BIG WEIGHT LOSS ?
Thanks a lot for any answers - it means alot - have a great day - Peter.
While I am waiting on a friend, let me add something about sleep and weight loss.
If you treat your sleep apnea successfully with CPAP and are able to sleep better, it will be easier to meet your weight loss goals.
You may want to read about gherlin and leptin and how they are badly out of balance if you don't sleep well and sufficiently. This drives you to gain weight and makes it very difficult to lose weight.
So your first priority should be achieving a good CPAP therapy and practicing good sleep hygiene.
Best of luck MISTER!
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