Bad Egg Debate Again! Calling All Paleo Dieters

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Bad Egg Debate Again! Calling All Paleo Dieters

Post by The Choker » Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:37 am

See - http://paleohacks.com/questions/142607/ ... z23cYAuMw5

Here we go again. It's back on the bad-egg list. Just after I convinced my daughter to lower the breakfast carbs and get some protein in first thing in the morning by eating one extra large egg daily.

Shall we hash this issue out again?
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Re: Bad Egg Debate Again! Calling All Paleo Dieters

Post by jnk » Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:54 am

My guess is that the answer is in the confoundingly confounded confounders.

Only bad eggs smoke the yolks.

Must be a Canadian thing. As in bacon?

What was the question again?

Basically, eating is gonna kill ya, one way or another, folks. And that's no yolk.

Hash the issue? As in browns?

Which came first, the cholesterol or the egg?

OK. Now the serious, smart people can post. I'm done. Stick a fork in me. Unlike the egg question. Which rolls on and on and on. . . .

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Re: Bad Egg Debate Again! Calling All Paleo Dieters

Post by Janknitz » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:47 am

Zoe Harcombe deals with it here: http://www.zoeharcombe.com/2012/08/egg- ... d-science/

And another analysis here: http://understandnutrition.blogspot.com ... g.html?m=1

Bottom line: don't take Nutritional advice from newspaper headlines.

I see no reason to cut my egg consumption which is about 4 or 5 a day--and I throw away some of the egg WHITES!
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Re: Bad Egg Debate Again! Calling All Paleo Dieters

Post by jnk » Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:09 pm

Thanks for those links, Janknitz. Good stuff!

But I'm too chicken to eat that many eggs.

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Re: Bad Egg Debate Again! Calling All Paleo Dieters

Post by ChicagoGranny » Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:15 pm

jnk wrote:My guess is that the answer is in the confoundingly confounded confounders.

Only bad eggs smoke the yolks.

Must be a Canadian thing. As in bacon?

What was the question again?

Basically, eating is gonna kill ya, one way or another, folks. And that's no yolk.

Hash the issue? As in browns?

Which came first, the cholesterol or the egg?

OK. Now the serious, smart people can post. I'm done. Stick a fork in me. Unlike the egg question. Which rolls on and on and on. . . .
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Re: Bad Egg Debate Again! Calling All Paleo Dieters

Post by chunkyfrog » Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:36 pm

Recipe for my breakfast, nearly every day:
1 scoop vanilla protein powder (23 grams protein)
1/8 cup powdered skim milk
2 tbsp. oat bran
1/2 cup water
1-1/4 cups frozen strawberries (no sugar) --half defrosted
1/2 tsp bourbon vanilla
1 large RAW EGG
Blend
YUM!

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Re: Bad Egg Debate Again! Calling All Paleo Dieters

Post by Janknitz » Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:41 pm

But I'm too chicken to eat that many eggs.


I'm too chicken to eat what they feed chickens! (GMO corn and soy).

We eat "pastured" eggs from a local farm (my favorite are the Tiffany blue eggs from Arcuna hens). Most mornings I eat two pastured eggs with a bunch of veggies, cooked in lovely grass fed butter and/or coconut oil. Most afternoons I have a homemade protein smoothie made with almond milk, coconut milk, some flavoring (coffee crystals, almond butter, or a few berries) and two egg yolks. And today there is a sliced hard boiled egg on my lunch salad. Yum!

And my cholesterol is EXCELLENT!!
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Re: Bad Egg Debate Again! Calling All Paleo Dieters

Post by jnk » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:03 pm

Janknitz wrote: . . . We eat "pastured" eggs from a local farm . . .
Man do I miss grandma's eggs from back when I lived in Kentucky! True local farm eggs are to store-bought eggs what home-grown tomatoes are to the plastic ones they sell in grocery stores.

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Post by chunkyfrog » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:07 pm

If only we could get away with having hens in town!

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Re: Bad Egg Debate Again! Calling All Paleo Dieters

Post by Therapist » Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:36 am


Why do people suspect that researchers who have ties to statin producers would want to scare the public away from eating eggs? So the public drops eggs and eats more carbs and drives up their cholesterol levels and therefore has to use more statins?

Seems like quite a far-fetched conspiracy theory!

I will continue to eat eggs every morning.
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Re: Bad Egg Debate Again! Calling All Paleo Dieters

Post by JeffH » Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:16 am

I eat three or four eggs every morning for breakfast and my trigs are 50 and HDL (the only one that matters) are 68. Now if I was eating a bunch of grain crap it would be thru the roof.


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Re: Bad Egg Debate Again! Calling All Paleo Dieters

Post by xenablue » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:46 am

OMG!!! When are the so called 'experts' going to realize that the cholesterol in food has NOTHING to do with the cholesterol in your body!!!

Since my T2 diagnosis 4 years ago, I eat over a dozen eggs every week and my cholesterol is fantastic. In fact, as soon as I was eating a bunch of 'good' fats, way less carbs (around 70g per day) and more veggies, my labs have been great!

Even my cardiologist and endo agree 100% with my diet (not my ex-dietician, however) as the results speak for themselves.

If anyone cares to read excerpts from a fairly short book (Ok, the guy's amazingly well-qualified in biochemistry among other things, however his command of grammar is questionable) it explains many things like low-carb eating, artificial sweeteners, cholesterol etc., in very easy to understand terms. http://www.drjamescarlson.com/content.aspx?idx=39

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Re: Bad Egg Debate Again! Calling All Paleo Dieters

Post by DreamStalker » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:47 am

Interpretation

Our findings suggest that regular consumption of egg yolk should be avoided by persons at risk of cardiovascular disease. This hypothesis should be tested in a prospective study with more detailed information about diet, and other possible confounders such as exercise and waist circumference.
In other words, they really don't know if the yolks are the real cause or not ... besides, most researchers have not yet figured out that cholesterol is NOT the cause of atherosclerosis, it is a symptom of it (as is waist circumference).

Corporate pharma funds these stupid studies to keep researchers (and the media and the sheeple) from seeking the real cause, corporate mono-agriculture of American grains.

The world's population WILL be reduced to sustainable levels. I say let the near-fetched sheeple Darwinize themselves with their trust of the coporatized fascist American kleptocratic oligarchy.
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Re: Bad Egg Debate Again! Calling All Paleo Dieters

Post by chunkyfrog » Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:23 am

Yolk is the BEST part!
Have you ever used a raw yolk instead of steak sauce?
SUBLIME!

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