comfort lite 2 and tubing questions

[yeti]

first is there a way to connect two 6 foot hoses together rather than buying a longer hose?

secondly I am having horrible rain out problems in the tiny mask or nasal interface (cant think of the stupid word!) I had to take my tubing cover off because the weight on my short tubing was pulling the mask too much but I had rain out before that. Even with my humidity turned down to one- I prefer 3, I am still have tons of water build up.

any suggestions?

thanks!!!

[LSAT]

I think that 12' would be too long. You would compromise your therapy. The longest hose sold (I think) is 10'.
The price for a hose is very low..($10-15)...buy a new hose.

[Pugsy]

Barrel cozy may help some with the condensation in the nasal pillows from your own breath.
http://www.padacheek.com/PACSwiftII_Barrel_cozy.html

Heated hose for the other rain out. Buy or build your own with reptile heater cable which has been discussed often here on the forum. I use a heated hose. Cpap.com now sells the one I bought elsewhere.
I am very happy with it. Lightweight, flexible and does its job since I also like a lot of moisture. No rain out since I bought it.

I imagine there are connector adapters for connecting 2 six foot hoses. I can't think of anything short off special order though. Not sure I would want 12 foot myself just on the chance that with that much length I might lose some pressure therapy. This has been discussed on the forum here in the past. I don't recall the final verdict but I do believe loss in pressure. 10 foot hoses are sold so I would think that length is okay.

[HoseCrusher]

If I were trying to connect 2 hoses together, I would use a coupler like this...

http://flexpvc.com/cart/agora.cgi?cart_ ... InsidePipe

The 1" inside one will be a tight fit, but it should work.

To compensate for the extra length of hose, watch your numbers and you may need to raise the pressure 0.5 cm H2O to compensate.

[SleeplessInOntario]

I have the same problem with rainout in my Swift FX mask.
Thanks for the tip Pugsy. I have a Barrel Cozy on order.

[yeti]

Barrel cozy may help some with the condensation in the nasal pillows from your own breath.
http://www.padacheek.com/PACSwiftII_Barrel_cozy.html

Heated hose for the other rain out. Buy or build your own with reptile heater cable which has been discussed often here on the forum. I use a heated hose. Cpap.com now sells the one I bought elsewhere.
I am very happy with it. Lightweight, flexible and does its job since I also like a lot of moisture. No rain out since I bought it.

I imagine there are connector adapters for connecting 2 six foot hoses. I can't think of anything short off special order though. Not sure I would want 12 foot myself just on the chance that with that much length I might lose some pressure therapy. This has been discussed on the forum here in the past. I don't recall the final verdict but I do believe loss in pressure. 10 foot hoses are sold so I would think that length is okay.

I have used a barrel cozy with the swift and it doesnt work well on this cushion gizmo. are the heated hoses heavy? Hose weight is a big issue for me both with the comfort lite and the swift fx.

thanks!

[yeti]

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To compensate for the extra length of hose, watch your numbers and you may need to raise the pressure 0.5 cm H2O to compensate.[/quote]

would the auto pap compensate?

[Pugsy]

are the heated hoses heavy? Hose weight is a big issue for me both with the comfort lite and the swift fx.

Gosh no. The heated hose I use is NOT heavy at all. Feels about like the white Performance hose. Very Flexible too. I would say no more weight than the the performance hose.
This is what I bought last November. You don't use any cozy over it..gets too warm. On the PR S1 machines they suggest that the humidifier be changed over to classic mode. I did and it works superbly with my cold bedroom. The pillow barrel is some distance from the heated coil and so the cold room air does hit the pillow.. between the 2 things... I have had zero rain out and I have my humidifier maxed out. I like it that way.

Here is what I have. I didn't want to try to build my own. Kept talking about it the 2 past winters finally got tired of talking and bought this one. At the time cpap.com did not carry them and I got mine from a EBay seller. https://www.cpap.com/productpage/hybern ... -hose.html

It is a covered expense for insurance. My DME told me that. After I showed him mine they were going to try to stock it. If I can find the paperwork I am going to send it in to my insurance. All they can do is say out of network..sorry but never hurts to try.

[archangle]

I find that with the cheapie hoses I use, I can fit one end inside the other end with a little effort and get a good seal.

However, if the machine is trying to do anything smart like exhale relief, bilevel, auto or event detection, and excessive hose length might confuse the machine. The machine is trying to sense the pressure and airflow at the mask through the tube. As the tube gets longer, it may have a hard time doing so.

Some people on bilevel, in particular have reported that the machine may not work if the hose is too long.

[HoseCrusher]

As with all things in life, there are trade offs. The extra hose length may offer benefits that outweigh any risks of machine malfunction. I think that an APAP machine would adjust, but I am not convinced that the impact of the additional hose length is that significant.

The bottom line is to keep track of your numbers and give it a try. If the machine behaves, and you feel more comfortable, you have a win. If something seems a bit screwy, an adjustment may be needed. While the machine may be designed for a 6' hose, it may tolerate a 12' foot hose without problems. The only way to know for sure is to try it and see what happens.

[Ms Piggy]

Most of the time I do not use any heat on my machines humidifier, I just use it as passover. I also made a flannel cover for the hose and I support the hose on a couple of longish rubber bands fastened to a piece of string suspended from the ceiling . when traveling I suspend it from a support, made from pieces of tubing, which I hook under the mattress - you will find how to info for this posted on line in the past.
OR you can buy a different type of support and hose cover at cpap sales site.