Drowning in my Aura

snoozalot · Post by **snoozalot** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:26 pm

New to cpap therapy. I just started with the Aura and find it really great. The only problem is it seems to get a lot of water in it during the night. I am using a heated humidifier, set on #2, and the house temperature is around 68 degrees at night.

It's a rather rude awakening when, from a sound sleep, I snort a nose full of water that wakes me up!

Any suggestions??

Thanks!

Bob

Sleepless on LI · Post by **Sleepless on LI** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:39 pm

http://www.sleepzone.com.au/index.html

Click on SleepZone Heated CPAP Tube on the bottom left of the screen. Many find this heated hose to be the answer. It's $89 from Australia.

Linda3032 · Post by **Linda3032** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 3:19 pm

Bob, I had to purchase the Aussie Heated Hose as Sleepless mentioned above. I think many people on this forum have purchased it. Yes, $89 plus the radio shack 12V adapter is spendy, and insurance does not cover the cost (a biggie for some of us), but it's almost a "must have" with Aura and probably most nasal pillows.

I used the NasalAire prongs for 3 years with no rain-out. But I had rainout with Aura - even with the heated humidifier turned off. Now, with the heated hose, I run my humidifier on 2 (in a very cold bedroom) and get no rainout.

Yes, and added expense, but worth the money. The Aura is so comfortable.

slumberer · Post by **slumberer** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 3:37 pm

In dry Los Angeles I haven't experienced any rainout but perhaps if the cpap machine was on the floor next to the bed the rainout would collect harmlessly in the water chamber of the humidifier? I don't know, just adding my 1.23 cents worth.

Linda3032 · Post by **Linda3032** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 3:56 pm

Slumberer, were you ever able to reduce the "noise" of your Aura? My thought was that the wire was bent too much and restricted the airflow before it arrived at the pillows. Could that be the case?

Rainout with Aura: my machine is below the level of the bed, but I still get rainout. Go figure.

slumberer · Post by **slumberer** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 5:05 pm

I haven't adjusted the wires in the tubes that run across the face to the nasal pillows. I suspect it is simply the rush of air as I inhale. It is something I might simply train myself to get used to. The ComfortCurve I just ordered is quieter but a little more tricky keeping a seal when I roll over onto my side. I am in love with the beauty of its design and the color (sounds rather silly, I know). I am determined to get it to work and have this as a mask I can use in combination with my ResMed Ultra Mirage FF. My Comfort Classic is to unstable with leaks and the Comfort Classic is a form of forehead torture. So far, I like the Aura with some noise exceptions and the ComfortCurve with some exceptions as well. When I can sleep in this summer, I'll have more lesire to do some experimentation.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 5:23 pm

68 degrees will get rainout in my Aura. The only solution is the heated hose...........except no substitute
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th · Post by th » Sun Feb 12, 2006 5:24 pm

the above guest was me..........
th

jcarn · Post by **jcarn** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 6:50 am

I've noticed the same problem with the Aura .. funny thing is, when I get up to look at the tubing and mask, they're both completely dry. The nasal air piece is the only part with built up condensation.
I've covered my tubing with material that keeps it very dry .. but still get the occasional water blast from the Aura.
Turning my RemStar humidifier down to 1 has helped.

jimh1 · Post by **jimh1** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:40 pm

Hi,
I have a question on the Aura. It looks like you would not be able to sleep on your back. Personally, I prefer stomach and side sleeping myself and usually end up in that position with my mask leaking. Do you experience leaks when sleeping on your side? I am going for mask fittings on Wednesday and I have been thinking of switching to the Aura.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

snoozalot · Post by **snoozalot** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:53 pm

jimh1,

I sleep in all positions, and find the Aura to be great. My only problem has been the moisture build-up, but I am going to work on that before I consider switching to anything else.

Bob

jimh1 · Post by **jimh1** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 8:50 pm

Bob,

Thanks for answering my question. I did buy that cozie cover for my current hose and it works great at keeping the rainout down. This may be a stupid question, but are the hoses the same size? Could I use it on the Aura hose? Sorry, been using the same mask for over a year and it really stopped working well over the last 2 or three months.

Thanks.

JimH

snoozalot · Post by **snoozalot** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:41 pm

Jim,
When you buy the Aura, you only get the headgear (which includes about a 1 foot long hose) and the nasal pillow section. I bought mine from cpap.com, and it comes with the medium and large pillows. You will still need to use your hose to run from the headgear to the cpap machine. The headgear attaches to a standard size hose.

I don't know if your hose cover is going to help too much with the moisture problem I (and others here) are experiencing. My problem is that the moisture seems to generate and collect in the base of the nasal section. Then, when it builds up, you end up snorting a nose full of water. However, it appears that my hose is staying fairly dry. I lowered the setting on my heated humidifier to "1" last nite, and it seemed to help a little, but can't be sure til I try it for a few nites. I'm new at this, but others have also posted moisture problems with the Aura on this forum. You may want to check out their posts.

Bob

Jere · Post by **Jere** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:35 pm

With the heated hose I can use my Aura and keep my heated humidifier up almost all of the way without rainout, even in a cold bedroom. Considering the cost of all the equipment we all have to buy to keep our therapy going, the price of the heated hose is well worth it.

Besides -when was the last time YOU ordered something from Australia?
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Linda3032 · Post by **Linda3032** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:07 pm

My six foot standard hose was well insulated, my humidifier was below bed level, and I slept in a very cold bedroom - I had no rainout for 3 years.

But, with the Aura, with the same conditions, I got rainout. Even with my humidifier set to "passover". But, the Aura is worth having to spend $100 to buy the heated hose from Australia and adapter (and I am a tightwad).

Note: I still had to put my insulated cover on the Aussie hose to prevent rainout.

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