Lower AHI on Nasal Pillow than Full Face Mask.

General Discussion on any topic relating to CPAP and/or Sleep Apnea.
DougVK
Posts: 119
Joined: Wed May 18, 2011 11:57 pm

Lower AHI on Nasal Pillow than Full Face Mask.

Post by DougVK » Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:36 pm

I used the Swift FX for 2 nights so far and got the lowest AHI ever on both these nights. My AHI was around 1.5 and 1.7 on the swift fx versus 4.5 to 5 every night on the full face mask. I wonder what could be the reason this. Average unintentional leak is about the same on both mask except for 1 or 2 blowouts a night on the fullface mask. The blowouts only lasted a few minutes so they can't be the reason. The pressure needed was the same as the nights with the face mask too, the same 90% and average pressure. Possible reasons I can think of are:

1. Mouth breathing with fullface mask vs nasal breathing on Swift FX
2. Lower vent rate in Swift Fx, the Swift Fx vent rate is nearly half of the Quattro FX vent rate.
3. The two nights were a fluke.


On a side note, why do some people need to tape their mouth shut? When your lips are closed shouldn't nothing leak out? If there is a gap in your lips when your mouth is closed shouldn't you fixed that instead of using tape or chin straps? Just wondering.

_________________
Mask

User avatar
Lizistired
Posts: 2835
Joined: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:47 pm
Location: Indiana

Re: Lower AHI on Nasal Pillow than Full Face Mask.

Post by Lizistired » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:47 pm

DougVK wrote:... On a side note, why do some people need to tape their mouth shut?
When your lips are closed shouldn't nothing leak out?
If there is a gap in your lips when your mouth is closed shouldn't you fixed that instead of using tape or chin straps?
Just wondering.
Because it happens when we are asleep. I assume in very deep sleep, the kind that I don't want to be interupted.

_________________
Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control
Additional Comments: Swift FX sometimes, CMS-50F, Cervical collar sometimes, White noise, Zeo... I'm not well, but I'm better.

DougVK
Posts: 119
Joined: Wed May 18, 2011 11:57 pm

Re: Lower AHI on Nasal Pillow than Full Face Mask.

Post by DougVK » Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:54 pm

Lizistired wrote:
DougVK wrote:... On a side note, why do some people need to tape their mouth shut?
When your lips are closed shouldn't nothing leak out?
If there is a gap in your lips when your mouth is closed shouldn't you fixed that instead of using tape or chin straps?
Just wondering.
Because it happens when we are asleep. I assume in very deep sleep, the kind that I don't want to be interupted.
Many people have no mouth leaks even at high pressures without the need for taping and straps. There is a reason why they don't leak and others do. The reason should be used to stop leaks in those who do need to tape and such.

_________________
Mask

User avatar
chunkyfrog
Posts: 34544
Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:10 pm
Location: Nowhere special--this year in particular.

Re: Lower AHI on Nasal Pillow than Full Face Mask.

Post by chunkyfrog » Tue Jun 07, 2011 6:11 pm

It would probably require surgery, as it seems, at least in my case, to be related to the anatomy of my head/jaw, etc.
I also tend to belt anyone who messes with my face when I'm asleep--of course I have no memory of it.

_________________
Mask: AirFit™ P10 For Her Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Headgear
Additional Comments: Airsense 10 Autoset for Her

Bandnuts
Posts: 32
Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:31 am

Re: Lower AHI on Nasal Pillow than Full Face Mask.

Post by Bandnuts » Tue Jun 07, 2011 6:48 pm

DougVK wrote:I used the Swift FX for 2 nights so far and got the lowest AHI ever on both these nights.......
I'm kind of new to this whole CPAP/VPAP system, but I'm totally engaged in the improvement process. Since starting on March 6th, I've managed to obtain 2 different full face masks, 2 different nasal mask systems, and 3 different nasal pillow systems. There's no doubt, I get better results from a nasal pillow system. And, I got better results from the Swift set-ups than with the Breeze. I think that was because there was less discomfort and a better fit.

Either way, I'm getting the same results as you... Better with a pillow system and best with the Swift.

_________________
Mask: Swift™ FX Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Headgear
Additional Comments: RedMed S9 VPAP Adapt set to EEP=7; PSmin=5; PSmax=15