Lucid Dreams when *NOT* on CPAP/ASV?

[BrianinTN]

I've read several accounts of people remembering lucid dreams after starting therapy. I've been on my ASV for about a month now (after stints on a CPAP and BiPAP for the last year), and it's been a frustrating and sleep-depriving experience that has made me feel much worse than before.

Anyway, I said "screw it" yesterday evening for a nap and whoa, what a crazy series of lucid dreams. I wore the mask for 4-5 hours last night, and when I had my usual early morning wake-up today, instead of just getting up and being tired for the day, I took it off and slept for another 4 hours or so. Same thing happened again.

It seems like the "REM rebound" effect usually happens when a patient starts on CPAP/BiPAP/ASV. For me, it seems to be the other way around. Has anyone else had this experience? I'm curious what's going on.

[Bons]

I've always had very vivid and detailed dreams, for as far back as I can remember. While dreaming I even note textures and background.

Just 'cause we have sleep apnea doesn't mean that all our sleep issues are related to SA

As per another thread we were both on, I'm liking my ASV a lot more now that I've upped the rise rate setting (which slows down the change from IPAP to EPAP, which thoroughly screwed up my titration since the tech lowered the setting when I told her I felt like I was being forced to breathe too rapidly ). I can fall asleep much faster now. And get into those crazy dreams......

[Wulfman...]

I've read several accounts of people remembering lucid dreams after starting therapy. I've been on my ASV for about a month now (after stints on a CPAP and BiPAP for the last year), and it's been a frustrating and sleep-depriving experience that has made me feel much worse than before.

Anyway, I said "screw it" yesterday evening for a nap and whoa, what a crazy series of lucid dreams. I wore the mask for 4-5 hours last night, and when I had my usual early morning wake-up today, instead of just getting up and being tired for the day, I took it off and slept for another 4 hours or so. Same thing happened again.

It seems like the "REM rebound" effect usually happens when a patient starts on CPAP/BiPAP/ASV. For me, it seems to be the other way around. Has anyone else had this experience? I'm curious what's going on.

Brian,

Do an "advanced search" on "dreams" and the forum member "rested gal". She has a collection of links about dreams and dreaming to which some of us contributed.

Prior to XPAP therapy, I had no problem dreaming and remembering them, too. After starting this therapy, the dreaming continued but the nature of them changed.
Personally, I'll take the dreams I've had since I've been on therapy to the ones I had before..........

Just because a person remembers or doesn't remember a dream doesn't mean much. Dreams can occur in almost any sleep stage. If we remember them, it may mean they occurred in a lighter or REM stage. If they occur in a deep stage of sleep, remembering them will probably be less likely. Oxygen deprivation could also (probably) make our dreams even more weird.


Den

[rested gal]

LINKS to dreaming - dreams - REM rebound
viewtopic.php?t=3524

A person can have plenty of REM, and can have REM rebound, without ever remembering a single dream or being aware the next morning of having dreamed at all. If you sleep undisturbed straight through your REM cycles without waking during REM, you could be dreaming up a storm without ever being aware of having had any dreams.

As Den said, we dream in other stages of sleep, too...not just in REM.... but again, if you don't wake up (or wake up long enough) during a dream, it's unlikely you'd even be aware of having dreamed.

It's quite possible for people to say (and think), "I never dream!" or, "I didn't have any dreams last night." When, in fact, they were dreaming every night, but did not wake during a dream in order to be aware of it.

[chunkyfrog]

Before cpap, I remembered many dreams--every night.
Most were strenuous, and frustrating, and I would awaken immediately after-- still full of adrenaline, out of breath, heart pounding.
I hardly remember any now. I do not miss them. My waking life is much better.

[BlackSpinner]

I've read several accounts of people remembering lucid dreams after starting therapy. I've been on my ASV for about a month now (after stints on a CPAP and BiPAP for the last year), and it's been a frustrating and sleep-depriving experience that has made me feel much worse than before.

Anyway, I said "screw it" yesterday evening for a nap and whoa, what a crazy series of lucid dreams. I wore the mask for 4-5 hours last night, and when I had my usual early morning wake-up today, instead of just getting up and being tired for the day, I took it off and slept for another 4 hours or so. Same thing happened again.

It seems like the "REM rebound" effect usually happens when a patient starts on CPAP/BiPAP/ASV. For me, it seems to be the other way around. Has anyone else had this experience? I'm curious what's going on.

So people have more apneas when they have REM dreams. If you are not using yuor machine you will probably wake due to the apneas and remember the dream you were in.

[pbach]

I am so happy to see this thread. I am in the hospital this week, Because if the nature of the operation I have not been on CPAP.
I have had the most horrific dreams. I dread falling to sleep.
I know my oxygen levels drop at night and they are quick to make sure oxygen is on me.
For me I first think is is low oxygen and the pain meds. Just guessing of course.