Encore... totally lost

[snuginarug]

I haven't the slightest idea of how to even access all the data on my card, much less the savvy to post my graphs here. Any help would be appreciated.

This is what I can do:
* put the card in the thingy, and put the thingy in the usb port
* open encore
* download from device

I got 12 pages of data, and somehow, it seems I don't have the type of graphs and charts others have posted here. The graphs and charts I do have are not readily understandable to me. I can't even make heads or tails of the compliance data. Most annoying to me is that I am unable to save the data I access from my card.

So any help at all would be VERY much appreciated. I just dropped $100 on this software, so I really want to be able to use it.

[jdm2857]

I don't use Encore Viewer, but hang on. Someone who knows Encore will help you through this. You can (and will) produce and understand the Encore reports.

[Goofproof]

I don't use it either, did you select full data? Also put the install disk it should have Help files on it. Jim

[slaaplekker]

Most annoying to me is that I am unable to save the data I access from my card.

You said you downloaded the data, which means you did already save it. If you don't put the card in the reader then you can still run the report up until the time that you last downloaded the data. BTW the data cards hold multiple years worth of data so no need to worry about running out of room on the card.

All of my data is stored in

C:\Users\John\AppData\Local\Resprionics\EncoreViewer

The EncoreViewer allows you to save the reports to PDF's where ever you want for long term storage. Once you have the report up just click Save and it will ask you where you want to save the PDF file.

Did you search for posts from Encore users to compare your graphs? Many posts are from users of Resmed equipment and the charts and graphs are totally different.

Here is a recent thread on EncoreViewer. If you read through it you find a link to Janknitz's viewer tutorial - nice work Jankintz. You might want to start there.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=55202&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... coreviewer

Good Luck
John

[Janknitz]

Here is a recent thread on EncoreViewer. If you read through it you find a link to Janknitz's viewer tutorial - nice work Jankintz. You might want to start there.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=55202&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=Encoreviewer

Snug, my tutorial doesn't have all the pages of the Encore Viewer report. The first few pages of data are summaries of pressure and usage. The daily reports start at about page 5 or 6 and there will be 7 daily reports and then a final set of summaries. You will not see the summaries of pressure and usage on my tutorial, only the daily detail reports. That's the important stuff.

I don't know why Respironics thought it was important for the user to have detailed summaries of compliance data--we KNOW if we are using the dang thing or not.

Anyway, as John says, to save a report click the little disk icon on the top left corner and it will generate a PDF report that you can save. It also saves all the data on the card so you can print out reports for any seven days of usage since you had the card, by clicking on the LAST date of the report you want to generate on that little calendar.

The help file for this software is almost useless, but there's only a few things you can do so it's pretty easy to figure out. The reports are complex, but not impossible to understand. I hope my tutorial helps.

[JOR7]

Here is another link to a site with nice information: http://www.osahelp.com/

The graphs shown there are a little different from those produced by EncoreViewer, but the explanations are the same.

[snuginarug]

to save a report click the little disk icon on the top left corner and it will generate a PDF report that you can save

OK, when I click the "save" button at the top left corner, I am given a box in which I am supposed to select a location.... and it won't let me! The drop down box has nothing in it. I would select a location, but there is no location to select! I tried reinstalling Encore. No ability to save. I tried getting an Adobe update. No ability to save. For the computer experts out there, is this because I don't have some important OTHER program or thing? I had to download the net framework thing to get Encore to install. Is there some other thing I might need? (Sorry I am not able to use tech language, I am very ignorant.)

I hope my tutorial helps.

Yes, it did help very much. Thank you for creating it. I am not sure that we are running the same version of Encore, though. I do not have that nice hour by hour chart.

I don't really understand my leak data. According to the chart I obtained here: http://www.resmed.com/us/assets/documen ... sa_eng.pdf my normal leak rate is 30, and my Encore report says it has been about 25. Hunh? Does that just mean my leak rate is good, and to not worry about it?

Anyway, looking at my data, it seems I still snore A LOT. Almost continuously. I haven't had a follow up with my sleep doc yet, I will in 10 days. So I will wait until then, and see if he changes my pressure. If he does not, I will take matters into my own hands.

Thank you all very much for steering me in the right direction to gather info on my own. I'm sorry to have repeated what others have covered before in other posts. All this stresses me out a great deal, and it is difficult for me to take in and digest information. I have some kind of mental block about all things technical in computers, and also in math, so this is all very hard.

[Hawthorne]

I have Encore Viewer but am not sure how to explain what I do to you.

I will try!

In the morning (after I've been up for about 2 hours), I get the card from my PR System One Auto. I put the card in the card reader (I have a memory card reader on my printer and use it). Next I open Encore Viewer. I click my Username (I chose the same name as on the cpaptalk forum.)

It opens up the page with the 2 calendar pages on it. I click "Downolads from Device". It's about the middle of the page on the right as you face the computer screen). I have to wait a few seconds for it to download. The calendar pages go blank (white) for a second. Then come up again.

Then I click the date I want on both calendar page. I download every day so I make sure that I click on the same day on each calendar page (be sure each calendar page is on the same month). If you want a month's data, click the first date on the left calendar page and the last date on the secoond calendar page.

Then I click "View Reprot" in the bottom left corner (facing the computer screen). Up comes page 1 of the report. The other 5 pages are there too but you see jsut the first page unless you scroll down. The I click "save" at the top of that page. It brings up "MY Documents" from my computer. Down toward the bottom of the page is a flashing curser in a wide rectangular box. I type in the date - i.e. Sept. 7, 2010 and then click "save". Under the box where I put the date it says "Adobe Acrobat Format' pdf".

Then that box closes.

I got to My Documents and find the file with that date. It has been saved. I click to open it. I get 6 pages (one night's worth of data) that I can scroll through. Page 4 gives the detailed data and that's the only page I really pay any attention to.

If you only download every week say, you would click on the appropriate dates on each calendar page and go through the same process. With a week's data (7 days) you will get 7 more detailed data pages (1 for each night) and the usual compliance and summary pages. I guess, if my math is correct, downloading a week's data will give you 12 pages (7 of them will be detailed data.

I don't know if that helps at all but that's my step by step.

[jdm2857]

I think that it's possible to right-click a download in the list box on the downloads page and choose detail report from the context menu. That produces a report that includes all of the data in the download chosen.

[djr1215]

The first time you go to save you have to tell it where to save it. I set up a file on my desktop called CPAP reports and that's where I save mine into. You may want to save it elsewhere. Then you have to tell it the name of this particular file. I generally do a week at a time so I put the dates as my file name.
I don't get the hour by hour chart that a lot of people seem to get either. The help file does say that different machines show different info. Do you use your machine on auto or straight CPAP? I think the straight CPAP does not show the hour by hour chart.

[snuginarug]

Down toward the bottom of the page is a flashing curser in a wide rectangular box. I type in the date - i.e. Sept. 7, 2010

Haha, I feel like such an idiot, it was wanting me to designate a name for the file, not a location. Well, I did say I'm pretty hopeless when it comes to this stuff because of my mental block.

So that solves that mystery. I am still wondering about the leak rate.

Thank you all for replying. Every time I post here, I am overwhelmed with the support I receive.

[Janknitz]

I do not have that nice hour by hour chart.

Are you scrolling down to the bottom of the "daily detail" page? It's hidden at the bottom unless you do that.

I don't really understand my leak data. According to the chart I obtained here: http://www.resmed.com/us/assets/documen ... sa_eng.pdf my normal leak rate is 30, and my Encore report says it has been about 25. Hunh? Does that just mean my leak rate is good, and to not worry about it?

Your leak rate is fine as long as it is UNDER 30 at that pressure. At the top of your leak rate chart you should see a solid green line. That means your leak rate is within the limits of the mask tolerance at that pressure.

Anyway, looking at my data, it seems I still snore A LOT. Almost continuously. I haven't had a follow up with my sleep doc yet, I will in 10 days. So I will wait until then, and see if he changes my pressure. If he does not, I will take matters into my own hands.

Personally, I think that the PRS1 overscores "vibratory snores". Does your bed partner think you are snoring? What is your AHI and how do you feel? I wouldn't worry about the VS score unless your bed partner still hears you snoring, your AHI is too high or you are not feeling better.

[snuginarug]

Are you scrolling down to the bottom of the "daily detail" page? It's hidden at the bottom unless you do that.

Hmm, yes, but it's not there. Oh well, it would be nice but I am not going to cry about it.

Does your bed partner think you are snoring? What is your AHI and how do you feel? I wouldn't worry about the VS score unless your bed partner still hears you snoring, your AHI is too high or you are not feeling better.

I don't have a bed partner to help me out on these things. But I feel pretty good and my AHI is incredibly low. I am not euphorically energetic, as I have been some days, but I feel pretty darn good compared to my pre-cpap days. Hooray for cpap!

[Hawthorne]

I too, found that the PR System One scored VS higher than the M Series that I have. On the M Series I had none. On the PR System One, the VS score was quite high at first. it has gone down considerably over the months that I have used the machine.

When I saw the first night's data, I asked my husband if I was snoring. He told me no. Even when I first started with this machine and the VS was quite high, he said - no snoring heard and he still says the same thing.

[djr1215]

Anyway, looking at my data, it seems I still snore A LOT. Almost continuously. I haven't had a follow up with my sleep doc yet, I will in 10 days. So I will wait until then, and see if he changes my pressure. If he does not, I will take matters into my own hands.

Personally, I think that the PRS1 overscores "vibratory snores". Does your bed partner think you are snoring? What is your AHI and how do you feel? I wouldn't worry about the VS score unless your bed partner still hears you snoring, your AHI is too high or you are not feeling better.[/quote]

I agree. My data says I snore pretty much all night with Cpap. So I set up my laptop and webcam next to the bed and video'd myself sleeping one night. No sound of snoring though the machine said I did. Some say the machine is hearing rubbing from the hose. The other option (for me anyway) is that the outside unit of my central air is right outside my window and very loud. Every time the air came on I could hear it on the recording, so I'm wondering if the machine is hearing that. (I keep my a/c down on 68-70 at night and in south Louisiana it's still hot enough that the a/c comes on often.)