Campers/Backpackers/Horse packers

[snoreless51]

I'm new to this site,accepting the fact that I need the Ardvark and am wondering if anyone has the same problem ie backpackers , deal with weight , it will add 10lbs to pack easy.Wife says I don't stop breathing if reclined,loungchair? hammock reclined? If anyone has a solution ,I got the pack then the Ardvark,packing in for several days will be weight enough,w/o batteries,machine etc;2.000 for solar panal,battery etc.

[bhebert]

Everyone is different, and you need someone to witness your sleep pattern, but I often get great naps in a lounge chair or even on the sofa. I do need to use a chin strap to keep from snoring with my mouth open. I can even sleep adequately in my car (though the chin strap is embarrassing and otherwise I disturb other drivers and passing fire trucks).

BH

[DreamDiver]

If you have sleep apnea, it's just a bad policy to sleep without your xPAP. Please - bring a battery that will last the duration of however many nights for your pack in and out. If it's only one night, a light aircraft-style CPAP battery may be enough. However, if you're going to be away from all electrical outlets, you'll need to rethink your strategy. Car camping and horseback packing are probably better options for a two or three day trip. It is unfortunate that a month-long trek through higher altitudes in Nepal is likely out of the question until the technology or medicine can catch up.

Plenty of people snore who don't have sleep apnea. This is not about snoring. It's about getting air so you don't die. Naps, trips - every time - xPAP should be on, regardless of how kooky it looks to your campmates.

[Goofproof]

Odd's are you won't find a lounge chair that weights under ten pounds. You can always choose to not use XPAP, just be kind, keep a good life ins policy in force to provide for your wife and kids. Really what it comes down to "We all Die", and we all help choose when, by our actions. Jim

[BlackSpinner]

I'm new to this site,accepting the fact that I need the Ardvark and am wondering if anyone has the same problem ie backpackers , deal with weight , it will add 10lbs to pack easy.Wife says I don't stop breathing if reclined,loungchair? hammock reclined? If anyone has a solution ,I got the pack then the Ardvark,packing in for several days will be weight enough,w/o batteries,machine etc;2.000 for solar panal,battery etc.

Just rememeber your body has adapted to getting enough oxygen every night. Doing without it now could be potentially more dangerous then it was before you got your cpap machine.
Maybe you can bring along a llama to carry your packs with batteries?

[snoreless51]

I have horse,found setup w/solar [folding]panal charging unit with lith/ion battery;cost is quite high.Hav'nt found anyone who uses one.CPAP.com has 2lb battery that will go one night w/o humidifier,must be charged on 110v ac.Solar panal setup adds less than 10 lbs if you minimize what you have to have, solar panal and battery.Some places in Marbles and Trinities are'nt Horse friendly.[leave tent and a few convience items at home I guess]
Car camping is easy,just have a deep cycle battery and charge when traveling or generator power;I just hate giving up the wilderness.

[nittalagh]

Just read yesterday on batterygeek.net that they do battery rentals. I was told by one of the customer service reps that its $5-6 a day. Maybe one of their CPAP batteries would be suitable?

[KirkC]

I've been kicking around some ideas for wilderness camping too.

http://www.batterystuff.com/solar-chargers/PF12w.html

http://www.batterystuff.com/batteries/u ... 12120.html

http://www.batterystuff.com/solar-chargers/GS12V7A.html

I would hope that starting with a fully charged battery, that the solar panel would maintain it enough for two additional nights. Still is a lot of stuff to carry though.

[DreamDiver]

I have horse,found setup w/solar [folding]panal charging unit with lith/ion battery;cost is quite high.Hav'nt found anyone who uses one.CPAP.com has 2lb battery that will go one night w/o humidifier,must be charged on 110v ac.Solar panal setup adds less than 10 lbs if you minimize what you have to have, solar panal and battery.Some places in Marbles and Trinities are'nt Horse friendly.[leave tent and a few convience items at home I guess]
Car camping is easy,just have a deep cycle battery and charge when traveling or generator power;I just hate giving up the wilderness.

Hmmm... If you're riding during the day, how do you charge the battery? Carrying a solar panel and attempting to trickle charge your battery seems infeasible. Wouldn't you have to set up the panel on the horse while it's moving because that's when you'll have sun? Isn't it further unlikely that a panel large enough to fully charge even an eight-hour battery in a few hours would be small enough to sit on the back of a horse comfortably?

The drain on an xPAP is a lot more than a CD player or a cell phone.

Anyone done the numbers?

[KirkC]

Anyone done the numbers?

I personally haven't, just kicking around ideas so far.

[KirkC]

Whoops, meant to post the link for the 25W solar panel earlier, not the 12W

http://www.batterystuff.com/solar-chargers/PF25W.html

[JohnBFisher]

... I've been kicking around some ideas for wilderness camping too. ...

Dang! My web browser just ate this nice long post I put together.

Okay, here's the short version:

The manual for your unit says it requires 5 amps at 12v DC. Frankly, that's ridiculously high. When you compare that to the battery calculator that CPAP.com provides you will see that you can get their lithium ion battery to last 9.5 hours and the Respironics (12 pound ... ouch) battery pack to last almost 20 hours (assuming a pressure of 12cm H2O):

https://www.cpap.com/cpap-machine/respi ... -plus.html

If you are backpacking, you might want to consider a lithium ion battery pack. Battery Geek is another source. They also advertise that they can put together a solar power setup for camping.

The solar power charger is exactly the type of thing you would need to trickle charge a battery while backpacking. Car Camping you can almost always find a power outlet to charge the battery. Horse packing would probably need the solar charger setup. Of course, you would need to adjust the solar cells to get maximum sun exposure during the hike. And perhaps take a longer rest break during the day to allow it to charge well during prime sun time.

I wish that Respironics published actual charts or tables to show the power demand at various pressures. You might be able to call Respironics to see if they know. That would allow you to better tailor your design.

Hope that helps!

[DreamDiver]

It's best to have one of your footman pick up your spent battery in the morning from your present camp, then have another footman deliver a freshly charged battery forward to the next planned campsite before sunfall.

Hopefully, the Battenburg and Earl Grey will all be set up when you arrive at precisely four post meridian for tea.

[BlackSpinner]

It's best to have one of your footman pick up your spent battery in the morning from your present camp, then have another footman deliver a freshly charged battery forward to the next planned campsite before sunfall.

Hopefully, the Battenburg and Earl Gray will all be set up when you arrive at precisely four post meridian for tea.

That is the way I always liked to camp but with the serfs doing all the set up and carry. It is really hard to find good serfs these days. The peasants keep revolting and then they make such a mess of things. It is hard to get the blood stains out.

[Made_in_1960]

I have the same problem. I've been a very outdoorsy person all my life. I've been on the hose for just under a months now. I'll be dropping a grand to buy a Honda 2000 generator later this week to recharge my camper's deep cycle battery. That will allow me to camp at sites without electrical hookups.

However, I have a kayaking trip on Cape Cod scheduled for June. We'll be paddling to a small island and tent camping without electicity. I have limited space in my kayak's hatches.

Even more problematic is the three day hike traversing the Presidential Range in New Hampshire in July. I'm staying at two AMC huts. I won't have electricity at the huts. And everything I bring with me goes on my back over very rugged rocky terrain.

I really don't see a viable solution for either trip. Does anyone have any ideas? Not going is not an option for me. So, I'll probably just do without the CPAP on those trips.