Weird feeling, some somebody have this?

[rosacer]

Hi

I have been feeling a weir feeling every time I can not seep well.

This started months ago when I wasn’t still been diagnosed with OSA and still it arrives now some days that I haven’t sleep well (If I read my HI/AI that day they are higher around 4), I’m sleeping all the time with the cpap machine.

I wonder if this is produced by the depravation of oxygen or this is simply another problem not related with OSA.

This is what happens: I wake up, I start taking a couple of breathings and then after the third or fourth breathing I start feeling a sensation as a very light trembling inside my chest and or in my forehead (inside my head could I say). This last for 3 or 5 seconds.

It’s the weirdest sensation I can ever felt, and need to say that I had never before felt like this until something like a year ago when my OSA became important. This freaks me out because it is closed to the sensation you feel when you have a part of your body numb and the blood circulation is returning again.

My AHI readings are at 3 to 4.5. I have an appointment with my doctor in2 weeks, he will see my resuls the fors time, I started treatment mid-December and my preassure haven't been optimized.

Comments, suggestions?

Thanks

[roster]

If the only health complaint you have is a trembling for 3 to 5 seconds once per day, then feel grateful and enjoy life.

[Tcamillemars]

When I first started, I used to feel a little light headed and odd when I first woke up. I would just lie in bed for a few minutes and it would go away. I don't know what it was from, but I just figured it was my body switching from cpap pressure to regular air. It went away quickly and I don't have this problem anymore.

[Gerryk]

What is your leak rate? I do agree that if it only happens for such a short time I wouldn't worry about it unless it continues or gets worst, but do mention it to your doc.

Gerry

[slapmeawake]

Almost sounds like heart palpitations to me. They can be caused by numerous things OSA being one. I used to feel them a lot but not so much now that I'm on the hose. If it persists I would check it out but usually they aren't indicative of anything serious. It could be too much caffeine so if you drink alot of soda or coffee maybe cut down. It will help you sleep better too.

[rosacer]

slapmeawake: this is not heart palpitations I know what it feels like, I had that a couple of times years ago. I had ECGs each year because of my high blood peressure problem and it was OK. I feel that thing on my head too.

My leak rate is 0.0! Even if I cath my mask leaking each time it rains out enough after 4 or 5 hours use. I think it doesn't leaks enough to be detected by the machine.

I take only one coffe a day some times two, I never take other kind of caffeine I don't smoke.

Tcamillemars: this is not light headed I already had that but not now. The weird feeling started before I start cpap treatment. The worst I slept the more intese the feeling was. I was wondering in that time if my brain was shrinking

The thing that shoks me is that the feeling is kind of intense one even if it last not much and is in the head the days I haven't slept well. I see that no one seems to have experienced this thing. Definitelly I will ask the doc, maybe him will think too I'm a little crazy. But I'm not imagining it.

[roster]

.... The weird feeling started before I start cpap treatment. ..... I was wondering in that time if my brain was shrinking. .....

Yes, your brain was shrinking. It happens to everyone when they are having apneas.

UCLA researchers have discovered that people with sleep apnea show tissue loss in brain regions that help store memory.

.... the scientists discovered that the sleep apnea patients' mammillary bodies were nearly 20 percent smaller, particularly on the left side.

.... During an apnea episode, the brain's blood vessels constrict, starving its tissue of oxygen and causing cellular death. The process also incites inflammation, which further damages the tissue.

....

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/uc ... 51534.aspx

This new imaging technique reveals multiple areas of brain damage in OSA patients not known to exist until now. DTI revealed various sized color-coded yellow-orange patches of brain damage scattered throughout the brains of a group of forty-one men and women subjects with OSA. Their ages ranged from thirty-eight to fifty two years old and they had not yet been treated. The areas of nerve fiber injury were wide-spread, located in critical regions of brain including prefrontal, temporal and parietal lobes. The cerebellum and brainstem were equally involved.

http://doctorstevenpark.com/sleep-apnea ... rs-disease

[Julie]

Your body may just be adjusting the 'regular' breathing vs overnight Cpap, but I notice you have a nasal mask, and wonder if you've ever tried a full face one. If you're breathing with an open mouth (once asleep) you could be losing a lot of good air that way and possibly not getting the full effect of Cpap.

[Muse-Inc]

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even tho I know my brain was damaged, this is scary stuff. This should be clearly and definitively communicated to everyone diagnosed with a condition that causes/abets apneas and hypopneas; the longer they resist treatment, the more brain damage occurs. At least in my case, my brain is healing from better sleep and no doubt the supps I take.

[roster]

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even tho I know my brain was damaged, this is scary stuff. This should be clearly and definitively communicated to everyone diagnosed with a condition that causes/abets apneas and hypopneas; the longer they resist treatment, the more brain damage occurs. At least in my case, my brain is healing from better sleep and no doubt the supps I take.

Also send it to the undiagnosed but highly suspect.

[kteague]

Since most of us do have a few residual apneas, it stands to reason some of those could cause us to wake up. Who knows what sensations it causes while we sleep, but waking during one might make us aware of a sensation that happens more often but we just aren't aware. The next time it happens, maybe note the time and check your detailed data. If you don't have the software, when your card is read, ask them to check that specific time if there was an apnea recorded and how long it lasted. If you were so inclined to get a recording oxygen monitor, you could correlate that data with your cpap at the time you noted. Since this is still all new to your body, maybe it will resolve over time. If the forehead part has been since cpap, I would have to wonder about the sinuses in your forehead someone being involved. Do mention it to you doctor in case they've heard similar descriptions before.

Before and for several months after going on cpap, I had an odd sensation that I can best describe as stuttered breathing. When I inhaled it was in short increments instead of one long inhale. Didn't happen often or last long. At some point it just quit happening. Hope your concerns are soon alleviated.
Kathy

[rosacer]

Thanks Kathy, your analisys sounds very logic! I will take note and try to check with my results. I really suspects the apneas been the cause of it, so I thought some of you could have experienced the same. I made the coment to my therapist but she didn't know. I will deffinetely mention it to my MD.

Rooster: I mention about the brain damage danger to each person I know have or could have OSA. I had no idea of this until I read here in the forum and went to internet find more info. All the MDs I told I had been diagnosed with OSA said to me, OH do you have your machine that's a dangerous sicknes! But no one told me about the brain damage, that's sad.

[kteague]

I just thought of something else. There a sleep symptom I've read about and my son-in-law has it. He also has sleep paralysis. But all the descriptions I've heard or read mention a brief vibrating sensation, almost electrical, in an area of the body (not the complete body). Seems it's disconcerting to those who experience it, but most say in time they have learned that it does quickly pass and no harm has come to them. Some sleep forums speak of this as a disorder occuring in REM sleep, likely a glitch when one wakes during REM and the mind wakes before the body regains movement, and the sensation occurs as the brain/body try to get back in sync. Just a thought.

[rosacer]

Kteague

I really think you found the reason of my weird feeling. I was reading about sleep paralysis and OSA; they say it happens while you are sleeping in a supine position, that low oxygen levels produce it (I experienced it a lot while I was in the worst of my apnea before starting the cpap treatment and now when I don't sleep well means I have a lot of apneas or hypopneas), you experience trembling in a part of your body not the whole body, it doesn't last more than seconds in the best of cases and starting a cpap treatment shows an improvemt on the condition.

All that relate to my synthomps.

It seems to be a non dangerous condition, bottering and maybe fraightening but not dangerous.

Thanks again Kteague

[DreamOn]

I was reading about sleep paralysis and OSA; they say it happens while you are sleeping in a supine position, that low oxygen levels produce it

Welcome to the forum, rosacer! The feeling you describe in your forehead sounds like something I experience myself occasionally -- kind of a tingling, numb, electrical sensation. Sometimes I feel it in my forehead or the top of my head. I don't have that feeling in my chest, though.

I would really appreciate a link to the material you were reading, if it's online. Thanks!

~ DreamOn