Dry Eyes

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Dry Eyes

Post by Pirateghost » Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:57 pm

About six months ago, started noticing real dry eyes at night. It is definitely from reverse air flow through my tear ducts as I only use nasal pillows. I can almost feel the air squirting out of the ducts. Around the same time, I was actively rinsing my sinuses out nightly before bed with a big blue ball syringe.

Went to Ophthalmologist today to discuss dry eyes. Told him story. He said it should not happen as there is a "check valve" (actually a flap of skin) in the duct to prevent this from happening. Some people don't have the flap (you've all seen the milk squirters). He seems like a schmuck as he instantly told me my face mask was causing the problem and there was no solution. I reminded this high paid doctor that plugs could be inserted in the ducts too of which he promptly agreed was possible. I also had to tell him which type of mask I was using.

Bottom line, he said I would not damage my eye by letting it get dry at night. He recommended an OTC gel type eye stuff instead of drops.

My opinion - I think I caused this problem by using nasal rinses too much. I think I damaged those flaps of skin blasting rinse into the nasal cavities. I didn't have dry eyes prior to actively rinsing and was on CPAP for about a 1 year prior. Nothing has changed in equipment or settings, except lowering of pressures. If you are rinsing, I would be careful.

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Re: Dry Eyes

Post by Julie » Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:01 pm

You should check with your MD. There is a condition called Sjogren's syndrome ("Showgrens") that is related to arthritis, an autoimmune condition, and quite common, where your eyes and possibly other areas are dry. It's important, though, whether Cpap or Sjogren's caused it, to take care of it and you can get "Artificial Tears" at any drugstore. But do also see your MD.

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Re: Dry Eyes

Post by Pirateghost » Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:09 pm

I am only dry at night, during CPAP use.

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Re: Dry Eyes

Post by harry33 » Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:14 am

I have a life long dry eye problem and the best Ive found is a heavy coating of yellow vaseline on the eyelids
australian,anxiety and insomnia, a CPAP user since 1995, self diagnosed after years of fatigue, 2 cheap CPAPs and respironics comfortgell nose only mask. not one of my many doctors ever asked me if I snored

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Re: Dry Eyes

Post by gasp » Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:02 am

Pirateghost wrote:About six months ago, started noticing real dry eyes at night. It is definitely from reverse air flow through my tear ducts as I only use nasal pillows. I can almost feel the air squirting out of the ducts. Around the same time, I was actively rinsing my sinuses out nightly before bed with a big blue ball syringe.

Went to Ophthalmologist today to discuss dry eyes. Told him story. He said it should not happen as there is a "check valve" (actually a flap of skin) in the duct to prevent this from happening. Some people don't have the flap (you've all seen the milk squirters). He seems like a schmuck as he instantly told me my face mask was causing the problem and there was no solution. I reminded this high paid doctor that plugs could be inserted in the ducts too of which he promptly agreed was possible. I also had to tell him which type of mask I was using.

Bottom line, he said I would not damage my eye by letting it get dry at night. He recommended an OTC gel type eye stuff instead of drops.

My opinion - I think I caused this problem by using nasal rinses too much. I think I damaged those flaps of skin blasting rinse into the nasal cavities. I didn't have dry eyes prior to actively rinsing and was on CPAP for about a 1 year prior. Nothing has changed in equipment or settings, except lowering of pressures. If you are rinsing, I would be careful.
Ruling out other physical issues, and saying the dry eye was due to air blowing into your eyes at night from your mask . . . my solution was to add YET ANOTHER object to my already crowded head, a silk sleep mask (with little padded parts at the nose area to keep light out [in this case air]).

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Re: Dry Eyes

Post by pagebypage » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:58 pm

Get a second opinion or a different ophtho.! My eye doctor told me my blepharitis (eyelid irritation) is caused by air from my mask. If left untreated, he says, and my regular doc. agrees, will lead to clogged ducts, more inflamation, sties, and possible infections.
Both have told me to used a hot (not too hot, of course) wash towel compress at least once a day, and to wash the eyelids with baby shampoo (no tears). Other suggestions are selsun blue instead of baby shampoo. I have used both and get good relief.

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Re: Dry Eyes

Post by bbblues277 » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:38 pm

I too have blepharitis and am now thinking it must be coming from my cpap. You really need to see a different ophthamologist... blepharitis can be very painful and the sooner you get it treated the better! You don't want it to damage your cornea! Mine was very close when I finally got treatment!

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Re: Dry Eyes

Post by Service » Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:12 am

HI guys

People usually know how to care for dry skin, but they may be unsure how to treat dry eyes, which can be equally or even more uncomfortable. In the winter months, with lower humidity, dry eye problems increase for some people.

There are various types of dry eye syndrome, and between 10 and 15 percent of people in the United States have dry eye problems, said Kenneth Goins, MD, associate professor of ophthalmology and visual sciences in the University of Iowa Roy J. and Lucille A. Carver College of Medicine.

"Many different factors can affect the tear film quality and amount, which leads to secondary changes in the eye and loss of vision," said Goins, who specializes in treating patients with corneal, external and refractive eye diseases at UI Hospitals and Clinics.

The amount of lubricating tears produced by the eyes can vary depending on whether the eye is at rest or under stress, such as while reading. People with severe dry eyes usually complain of pain, redness, decreased vision and foreign body sensation.

Causes of dry eyes include wind and sunlight; exposure to dirt and grit; decreased tear production as a person ages; eyelid abnormalities that affect the blink mechanism; and naturally and artificially dry environments. In addition, major causes of dry eyes are the side effects of medications or associated systemic (whole body) diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis or lupus, Goins said.

The list of medications that cause dry eyes is extensive and includes certain blood pressure medications (beta-blockers), antidepressants, heart anti-arrhythmia drugs and Parkinson's medications. However, people should not stop taking their medications despite dry eye problems.

















































































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Re: Dry Eyes

Post by gasp » Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:44 pm

Service wrote: . . . ""Many different factors can affect the tear film quality and amount, which leads to secondary changes in the eye and loss of vision," said Goins, who specializes in treating patients with corneal, external and refractive eye diseases at UI Hospitals and Clinics."

I agree there can be many contributing factors, but one that may be overlooked is simple dehydration. So many of us discount the importance of drinking enough water. And, when we drink coffee or other dehydrating beverages, we need even more to compensate. A not so scientific way to tell if dehydration is occurring is to pinch the skin on top of your hand. If it remains peaked, then there may be severe dehydration. And how rapid or not the skin returns to normal, without a pinch mark, may determine level of dehydration.

When I'm hydrated, I can pinch the skin on the top of my hand and it will bounce back without any sign of that it was pinched. Of course some, such as the elderly have a limit on how hydrated they can be, and children as well. Both tend to dehydrate quickly for different reasons.

































































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