CPAP vs. Sleep Apnea Pills

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CPAP vs. Sleep Apnea Pills

Post by Maria29 » Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:39 pm

Hello all I'm new to the Sleep Apnea treatments and cures. I recently discover that my grandpa has Sleep Apnea from his recent visit to the clinic. He is a very strong 80 year old man and just been introduce to the CPAP machine. He complains about the machine,because he is not use to sleep in one position every night. A friend of my did some research and found out there are some natural pills you can take to help with Sleep Apnea. She told me that its not FDA approve unfortunately, but it's been working for someone she knows, go figure. I've been following what she's been telling me about the person she knows who have it. The first two nights the pill didn't work. But shockly she told me one day that she spoke with her friend again and was told that she got a decent night sleep. I believe that I will go ahead and mention this to my grandpa and if it works for him I will let you guys know

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Re: CPAP vs. Sleep Apnea Pills

Post by midnightdweary » Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:44 pm

Hello there,
Can you give us more specifics as to what let up to your GP needing a cpap, and what kind of pills they are?
If there is a natural one that works and we don't know about it, we would be interested.

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Post by tattooyu » Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:46 pm

Ahhhh, the ever elusive non-CPAP treatment. I have no doubt that one day there may be a treatment that doesn't require CPAP therapy. I think there is an experimental implant I read on a post here somewhere. Heck, there may even be a cure some day!

I am a skeptic with an open mind. Your post raises a few questions for me:
  • What is the name of this pill?
  • How did they know they got a good night's sleep? Did they have their oxygen measured while they were asleep?
  • If it's too good to be true, isn't it most likely?

EDIT: Is this what you are referring to — http://www.websciences.org/cftemplate/N ... D=20065085
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Re: CPAP vs. Sleep Apnea Pills

Post by BlueSky72 » Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:55 pm

Hi Maria

Thank you for sharing this, I hope something works for your Grandpa. Doctors measure whether someone has had "a good night's sleep" using special equipment either at home or in a sleep clinic. We don't know ourselves whether we have had a good night's sleep - often we think we have, when the equipment shows we haven't. So, any treatment like a pill needs to be tested using equipment. Researchers are desperately trying to find a cure or treatment for sleep apnea, and at the moment for all but a few specific situations, some form of CPAP is necessary. Your Grandpa can get used to CPAP with the right support from people in the know. For example, he doesn't need to sleep in one position all night. He should ensure he has a good sleep doctor. All the best and it's so nice to see you caring about your Grandpa. Even at 80, there is a lot to be gained from getting it treated. His life is at risk if it's not correctly treated.

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Post by Sleeprider » Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:18 pm

Any "natural pill" claiming to be a cure for sleep apnea is a false claim. There may be natural substances that can temporarily tighten the throat tissues, and a number of people successfuly use oral appliances; but until it is shown to be effective on an individual by a sleep study, it should be assumed that prescribed CPAP should be continued.

The issue here is comfort. A device that supports the hose can really help with sleep mobility. Also, get some fleece covers for the hose and headpiece. It makes the equipment much more tolerable.

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Post by BlackSpinner » Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:22 pm

Pills for sleep apnea - no way would I take them.
Medication always has side effects. CPAP for me is the least intrusive therapy I have ever had.
It doesn't affect my thinking negatively , it doesn't affect my physical body in anyway negatively, it won't cause cancer, 4 hour erections or leaks in various parts of the body.

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Post by rogelah » Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:30 pm

It's another job for Acai berries (MonaVie juice) and Resversatrol! DUM-TA-DUM!
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Post by tattooyu » Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:36 pm

BlackSpinner wrote:CPAP for me is the least intrusive therapy I have ever had. It doesn't affect my thinking negatively , it doesn't affect my physical body in anyway negatively, it won't cause cancer, 4 hour erections or leaks in various parts of the body.
Is that such a bad side effect?

I agree though. I can't wait until I lose enough weight to where I don't need my BP meds any more (hopefully).
It's another job for Acai berries (MonaVie juice) and Resversatrol! DUM-TA-DUM!
Oh lord, my friend is a MonaVie pusher. If I could just buy the darn stuff that would be great... but NOOOoooo! You have to be a "distributor". Urgh.
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Re: CPAP vs. Sleep Apnea Pills

Post by BlueSky72 » Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:40 pm

tattooyu wrote:Is that such a bad side effect?
I know you're only joking, but I am sure those who've had this side effect would say it is! not to mention their partners - sheesh, I'm already tired, good thing I don't have a partner with that particular problem as well

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Post by Hawthorne » Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:45 pm

Has this person who is being treated for sleep apnea with this pill had a sleep study to prove that it is adequately dealing with their sleep apnea?

That's the only way to know if this is just another of those so called treatments.

One needs to be very careful about "natural" remedies for anything. Drugs, which often do cause negative side effects, have at least been thoroughly tested in careful clinical trials and and are regulated. Not so with "natural" remedies for any condition.

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Re: CPAP vs. Sleep Apnea Pills

Post by Maria29 » Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:05 pm

I just want to give an update on my grouchy Grandpa. He is doing better, I got him to try these pills for sleep apnea. The pill are call Sleep Apnea Relief, the ingredients are grown organically . He's sleeping much better at night, so, so far so good.
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Post by BleepingBeauty » Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:48 pm

Maria29 wrote:Here is the link to find out more about Sleep Apnea Relief. http://www.beatsleepapnea.com
There are some mighty big claims being made about that product on that site. I'm skeptical and cynical, so I'll keep using my machine.

Glad your grandpa's doing better, Maria. Is he taking these pills in addition to or in lieu of using his CPAP machine?
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Post by Treehorn » Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:00 pm

BleepingBeauty wrote:There are some mighty big claims being made about that product on that site.
I didn't think herbals could make specific claims to treat specific illnesses without getting into major trouble. I could see using words such as "may" or "might" and even using wording like "To stimulate your respiratory system" or similar but calling the product "Sleep Apnea Relief" seems to me to be a major claim.

Where do the lawyers form their line.

I wouldnt trust my loved ones life to this product (or any other) without sleep lab data to show its actually working.

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Post by Julie » Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:03 pm

Just read the ingredient list of that medication - seriously scary and nonsensical to boot. I urge you to get your grandfather to a proper medical doctor because those things are not going to cure his apnea one bit!

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Post by Pugsy » Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:09 pm

Being the skeptic that I am, I don't think there ever was a grumpy grandpa. I think this was just a sneaky attempt to get past the spam radar.

I remember seeing a similar "story" at another apnea forum a couple months back.

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