Is a sleep debt calculator of any use?

[Hoze-Zay]

Just wondering if anyone uses one. It seems to make sense when you punch in the numbers if you are a proponet of the sleep debt idea. Which I am..maybe.
Mine showed I need to make up 1.5 hrs in order to be out of debt.
Here is the link http://www.thewhitenoisealbum.com/sleep ... tiple.html

[dalemeyer]

Where do you get this calculator I would be interested in seeing it. Does it work like getting extra sleep on day 5 & 6 as overtime and extra sleep on day 7 as doubletime . You could get out of debt really quick that way.

[Hoze-Zay]

Where do you get this calculator I would be interested in seeing it. Does it work like getting extra sleep on day 5 & 6 as overtime and extra sleep on day 7 as doubletime . You could get out of debt really quick that way.

If you will hit the part the part that says white noise album it will send you to it. Then hit multiple nights.

I just thought it might help to explain why some people have days where they feel lousy but they think they are getting enough sleep. They might have a debt to pay.

[Hoze-Zay]

Why is this post not interesting..It seems important to me and I will use it as a tool to try and make my life easier.

I dont get it, if you could figure out a magical number of hours to sleep that might keep you from feeling bad wouldn't you want it?

[Hoze-Zay]

Here is a link to one that allows you to figure it out yourself. http://www.alertnesssolutions.com/Resou ... t_exer.pdf

Am I the only that understands that you can wear the mask from here to doomsday but if you are not making up the debt then you will still feel lousy.

[Pugsy]

Am I the only that understands that you can wear the mask from here to doomsday but if you are not making up the debt then you will still feel lousy.

I understand and totally agree with you I have been saying this very thing in another thread but in different words. I average 6 to 7 hours of sleep. I get great numbers. I feel marginally better.

Last night got 9 hours of sleep, great numbers, I feel markedly better.

Yep I need more of those 9 hour nights. I didn't want to have to see what that calculator told me I needed. I was afraid to. I already knew that I was going in the red every time I woke up with 5 hours of sleep. Which happens a lot to me. Most of the time I am lucky to get 7.

[pitrow]

so after five years of barely "sleeping" if you figure in all the apneas and hypopneas and stuff, I figure I've got roughly 11,000 hours of sleep to make up. Better clear my schedule for a while....

[bdp522]

The problem with the calculator is it only figures for 1 week. We have a lot more than 1 weeks sleep debt to make up. You also need to know how many hours of REAL sleep you need. Lets assume you need 8 hrs.....

Now take the 1.5 and multiply it by 52 weeks - - -78 hours to make up for 1 year- - - - times the number of years you may have been having events- - - 2 yrs= 156 hrs, 3yrs= 234 hrs....etc,etc,etc....


Brenda

[SleepNazzi]

so after five years of barely "sleeping" if you figure in all the apneas and hypopneas and stuff, I figure I've got roughly 11,000 hours of sleep to make up. Better clear my schedule for a while....

Thank you for doing the math... And I didn't think I could feel any lousier a few minutes ago.


NO SLEEP FOR YOU!

[Rebecca R]

I couldn't get the plug-in to work. I will have to try a different computer.

I read how it works and I think am going to have to go BANKRUPT. Do you have that link?

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[Hoze-Zay]

so after five years of barely "sleeping" if you figure in all the apneas and hypopneas and stuff, I figure I've got roughly 11,000 hours of sleep to make up. Better clear my schedule for a while....

It does not work that way. You see people on here all the time saying that for the first time in years they are getting 8 hrs sleep and they feel wonderful so there has to be a sort of reset mechanism or that the brain refreshes itself once it gets a certain amount of rem sleep. I don't know what it is that does it but it must exist or people would be dropping dead like flies in this country.
So you don't need to make up a million hrs of sleep you just need to do it enough to settle your sleep debt and the way to do that is get more sleep.
The sleep calculator is just a tool to show people that they are not getting enough sleep.
If you were perfect and didn't have sleep apnea but you were still getting only 5 or 6 hrs a night you would still be incurring a sleep debt that would make you feel lousy. Then, once you add sleep apnea back in and it further messes with your sleep rhythm you fall further into debt.
So in my mind Sleep Apnea and Sleep debt can be two different things and we have to attack each of them separately.
And because some of us are worse than otheres we may never get a to place where we have both the sleep apnea and the sleep debt even but I think we can get close by getting the sleep debt paid off.

[bdp522]

because some of us are worse than otheres we may never get a to place where we have both the sleep apnea and the sleep debt even but I think we can get close by getting the sleep debt paid off.

Agreed. However the sleep calculator makes it seem like this is done with a couple of hours of extra sleep, and for most it takes a long time to feel the good results. And most who have had instant results have seen even more improvements over time.

Brenda

[Hoze-Zay]

because some of us are worse than otheres we may never get a to place where we have both the sleep apnea and the sleep debt even but I think we can get close by getting the sleep debt paid off.

Agreed. However the sleep calculator makes it seem like this is done with a couple of hours of extra sleep, and for most it takes a long time to feel the good results. And most who have had instant results have seen even more improvements over time.

Brenda

If you put it in the week mode then it can show an amazing amount of lost hrs so it's not just a few hrs. Let's say you lose 20 hrs a week and multiply it by 4 then you come up with an amazing amount of sleep you have to make up. That is why I say split the two and attack them seperately. Attack the sleep apnea with the mask and attack the Sleep debt by making it up.

[Rebecca R]

So in my mind Sleep Apnea and Sleep debt can be two different things and we have to attack each of them separately.
And because some of us are worse than otheres we may never get a to place where we have both the sleep apnea and the sleep debt even but I think we can get close by getting the sleep debt paid off.

I agree. With or without Sleep Apnea, people don't get enough sleep. Children are even building up huge sleep debts these days. People expect to function on fewer and fewer hours of sleep.

R

[claoudi]

What are the pros and cons of using debt relief agencies to get rid of debt? What does it do to your credit? Those debt relief agencies that help you get rid of debt fast tell you to stop paying your bills and instead you pay them. They then use the money you send them to negotiate lower payoffs to your lenders. What are the pros and cons of doing this and how long will it effect my credit score for? Any experience is extrememly welcomed!