General Discussion on any topic relating to CPAP and/or Sleep Apnea.
			
		
		
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								ChipsXJ							
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								by ChipsXJ » Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:59 am
			
			
			
			
			How likely is it that my VS (vibratory snore) is actually a result of my teeth grinding and not actually a snore?
Thanks
here is my latest report.................the best ever VS I have had.

M Series Auto CPAP with A-Flex 
Fisher & Paykel Flexifit 431
Remstar Integrated Passover Humidifier 
M Series Smartcard Module
Encore Pro 1.8.49; Encore Pro Analyzer 0.8.9 
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																			 JimW203
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								by JimW203 » Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:32 am
			
			
			
			
			Does the software display any information about the frequency of the"vibratory snore?" If it does, I would expect a snore to be significantly lower in frequency than teeth grinding. Also, do you have any indication of the threshold level for the reporting of a snore? I would also suspect a snore would be a lot louder than teeth grinding. Keep in mind that what you hear in your own head that is teeth grinding is getting to you via much tighter coupling than a snore getting to the machine via a column of air in the tube. Thus, I would expect teeth grinding would be less likely to affect reporting. But, what do I know, I'm just thinking outloud.
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																			 Sleeprider
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								by Sleeprider » Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:04 pm
			
			
			
			
			Why not put on your mask and start it up.  Grind your teeth at a couple intervals, then download data and review results. If it records VS, you have an answer.  If nothing records, you also have an answer.
			
			
									
									
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
	
				
		
		
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								Paul56							
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								by Paul56 » Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:12 pm
			
			
			
			
			If you suspect bruxism then best to get a dental appliance for that as soon as you can... as there can be some serious effects over the long term.
I received my dental appliance for the same issue about 2 months ago... just another device I need to install before bed.    
I don't find it interferes at all with my therapy.
			
			
									
									
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
	
				
		
		
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								Snorebert							
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								by Snorebert » Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:27 pm
			
			
			
			
			Paul,
It's good to hear that the dental appliance doesn't interfere with your therapy.
As a long-time teeth grinder, I can tell you that I am concerned about the effects.  Two years ago I had over $10,000 worth of crown work done to deal with the fact that I had ground my teeth down so much. At that time, my dentist got me a little acrylic cap that fits over my two top front teeth to keep me from grinding.  I eventually taught myself to sleep with my teeth apart and breath through my mouth.  
Then came OSA and CPAP and I am now working on training myself to sleep with my mouth closed and will probably need to start using the appliance again!  Who says that God doesn't have a sense of humor?
BTW - Chips, you can get a fairly inexpensive mouthguard at the local drugstore that you boil and mold to your teeth.  Than may be one way to eliminate grinding from the equation.
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																			 OCNorsk
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								by OCNorsk » Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:48 pm
			
			
			
			
			I have had a night guard for over twenty years.  The same one...because I don't like the new one I had made.  It has been a total non issue with CPAP.  I always say, I can't sleep on my stomach because I grind my teeth.  That was when I switched to sleeping on my back.   I can't sleep on my back because I stop breathing.   I can't sleep on my sides, because I totally squish my shoulders and they hurt for days.   I am working on a plan for sleeping by hanging by my knees.
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								by Catnap » Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:33 pm
			
			
			
			
			Paul56, I feel like that too ("Just another appliance...").  I feel like I'm armoring up for the wars when I go to bed.  First comes the dental appliance for bruxism.  Then on goes the FFM.  Once that's all adjusted, I put on the left arm splint for tendinitis and the right hand thumb spica splint for the post carpal tunnel surgery recovery.  All I need is some kind of foot splint and maybe a fake eye to complete the picture.  It's like I put all the anatomical pieces back together each night, but the glue lasts only through the following day  
			
			
									
									
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
	
				
		
		
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								Snorebert							
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								by Snorebert » Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:10 pm
			
			
			
			
			Catnap, you are a real card.
I always wondered if Rube Goldberg and the Bionic Woman had a child what would he/she be like.  I think I now have a mental image.
Thanks for the chuckle!
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