Jar Type water trap for rainout

[Danmid]

Does anyone know of a jar type water trap for rainout control in cpaps? just an in/out lid on a jar, to catch condensed water droplets. Would it effect anthing negatively?

[DreamDiver]

Does anyone know of a jar type water trap for rainout control in cpaps? just an in/out lid on a jar, to catch condensed water droplets. Would it effect anthing negatively?

It should work. The problem is placement. Where would you put it in the line?

[roster]

Does anyone know of a jar type water trap for rainout control in cpaps? just an in/out lid on a jar, to catch condensed water droplets. Would it effect anthing negatively?

Have you first tried conventional methods of preventing and dealing with rainout? Many people are successful with one or a combination of these techniques:

1 A cover for the hose.
2 Make sure the hose runs down from the mask to the humidifier tank.
3 Lower the setting on the humidifier.
4 Increase the room temperature.
5 Finally, use a heated hose.

A combination of 1 and 2 eliminated the problem for me despite a very cold bedroom and a high humidity setting.

[Guest]

I 2nd Rooster's methods but say hey give it a whirl & post your results.

Does anyone know of a jar type water trap for rainout control in cpaps? just an in/out lid on a jar, to catch condensed water droplets. Would it effect anthing negatively?

Have you first tried conventional methods of preventing and dealing with rainout? Many people are successful with one or a combination of these techniques:

1 A cover for the hose.
2 Make sure the hose runs down from the mask to the humidifier tank.
3 Lower the setting on the humidifier.
4 Increase the room temperature.
5 Finally, use a heated hose.

A combination of 1 and 2 eliminated the problem for me despite a very cold bedroom and a high humidity setting.

[Bearded_One]

I have no idea if the concept will work; if you want to try it, the water chamber for an HC-150 would probably make a good trap.

[ozij]

Rainout is the result of the air in your hose or mask containing more humidity than it can carry at that at that point at that temperature.

That humidity could come from the humidifier, or from your breath.

If you drop the heat on the heated humidifier or not use it at all, you'll get dry air - same as with the jar.

However If you don't want dry air and do want humidity in the air the comes into you nose from the hose (and no rainout of course), you have to raise its temperature, especially where it has the greatest chance of cooling and condensing.

I suggest making sure all the hose/tube parts are isolated from cold. And that also means the narrow tubes some masks have to connect them to the main hose. That narrow, thin tube may be a source of rainout because its even thinner than the main hose.

O.

[Danmid]

Thanks for your feedback everyone.

I do intend to try the insulated sleeve for the hose first. I am just thinking ahead because the rainout was initially so bad. My setting was 1 out of 5, so I can't go any lower, and shutting it off leaves me too dry. My room is pretty warm, but the hose still gets so bad that it fills up and starts gurgleing after around three hours of use.

If the sleeve doesn't work, I will probably put a water trap jar at the lowest point of the hose, but I am still hoping the sleeve works as a last shot. I will post my results.

[danmid]

I tried the insulated hose cover and the hose seems to have stopped filling up. My nasal pillows are another story, even on a setting of 1 they tend to condense a drip every now and then so that I breath it right in....I guess I may just have humid breath? I think I may just shut off the humidifier all together for now, although I really didn't want to. That is, unless somebody has a recommendation for mask specific condensation.

I'm over the jar idea now that the hose is ok....

[ozij]

SnuggleHose Cover for Breeze and Swift Pillow System

O.

[birdshell]

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I suggest making sure all the hose/tube parts are isolated from cold. And that also means the narrow tubes some masks have to connect them to the main hose. That narrow, thin tube may be a source of rainout because its even thinner than the main hose.

O.

I don't know what equipment you are using, but Ozij is right about the narrow tube. When I used the ComfortLite 2, I used a "little hose" cover crafted for me by Pad-a-Cheek. Click Here for Pad-a-Cheek Website It was a perfect fit and was a wonderful solution to having a very cold bedroom.

Karen,
Who has seen enough rain outside

[Babette]

I use homemade snugglies on my big hose and my little hoses. I still get the odd droplet now and again. I figure that's just the price I pay, and it's not that big a deal to take the mask off, swab it out with kleenex, swab my nose dry, and re-mask up.

The other good thing to do is raise the ambient temperature in your bedroom. Lately it's been very cool at night here, and I like to sleep with the window open, so I'm getting more rainout than usual, but I just keep juggling the variables. Last night I only opened the window a little bit, and seemed to do better.

Good luck!
B.

[Nodzy]

I'm always amazed at this rainout issue. If I set the humidifier to any setting above #2, the resulting flow is too warm for me. Normally I maintain it on the lowest or 2nd heat level, or as a passover.

But I do use a long tubing routed to be above my head and over the headboard, from the end table I coverted to med-equipment use beside the bed. But I also use an add-on short hose, from an old Remstar humidifier, and added an extra swivel 12" from the xPAP unit. So, even if I had rainout little of it would reach the mask, I'd think.

Nodzy

[gasp]

I just gave in and increased the temperature in my bedroom. Dry hose and just some in the nasal pillows from my breath. Drat - love a cold bedroom.