Soyala Nasal Mask Issue

[sleepngo]

I have a medium Soyala Nasal mask it seems to fit fine, no major leaks to speak of. The problem I am having is that it puts too much pressure on the side of my nose and causes nasal air flow restrictions.

My question is, can I use a large cushion on this mask and by using a large cushion would it promote better air flow? Or do I have to purchase a new large mask?

In either case would changing to a large make any difference in unrestricted air flow through the nostrils? Thanks.

regards,

Dan

[DreamStalker]

I have never been able to use nasal or full face cushion masks.

Seems I'm sensitive to pressure being placed on either side of my nose which restricts blood flow to/from my sinus tissues and causes congestion and restricited air flow.

Same thing happens when I lay my head in the face cushion of one of those massage tables ... whithin 10 minutes I have to start breathing through my mouth.

[sleepngo]

I can put pressure in the area of the maxillary sinus cavity and the upper and middle turbinates but any pressure in the area of the inferior turbinate causes air flow restriction. I need a cushion that tapers away from the inferior turbinate to keep the nostrils open. I was thinking that the large cushion for the Soyala might do that, but really don't know.

If someone is using the large Soyala? I would like to know if it does reduce pressure in the area that I mentioned above? Also are the cushions interchangeable on the same mask?

Dan

[sleepngo]

Just found out that the cushions are not interchangeable so have to trade my medium for a large to see if it will improve nasal air flow.

Does anyone out there have a large they would like to trade for a medium?

Dan

[Snoredog]

Tried to WARN everyone about that, their sizing guide needs to go into the garbage, NOT even close to being accurate.

That mask would be a lot more successful if they would fix their sizing guide. So MANY people get the wrong size because of it. If you used their sizing guide I would bitch and moan until they replaced it with the correct size.

Yes getting the Large would eliminate the pressure from the outside of the nose, I had the exact same problem but started using a Large in other nasal masks long ago.

[sleepngo]

Yes I used their sizing guide. I was between a small and medium, so I selected the medium, it seemed to fit fine, sealed fine but felt a little snug on the side of my nose. Than after turbinate surgery felt too sung, so I felt it was swelling from the surgery and maybe after a few weeks it would be less sung, but that is not the case, still too tight. maybe I will try as you said and see if the squeaky wheel gets the grease, thanks.

Dan

[sleepngo]

Talked to cpap.com and they said that would not replace the medium with a large, been too long, five months. So I called Somno Tech and they too said they could not replace the mask do to the sizing guide being inaccurate, but she did say they are replacing the silicone cushion with a gel cushion, will be available at the end of the month. Has anyone else heard about the new gel cushion for the soyala nasal mask?

My DME is going to order me a new large to replace the medium, will cost me a little less than what I paid for it on line.

Dan

[frihet]

I hadn't heard about the gel cushions.

But as a new release, the odds are strong that it will come with the new HEADstrap headgear.

I did find application to the FDA for the 'Soyala GEL' which weinmann applied for on 4/8/08, and FDA approval granted on May 9,08.

http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/pdf8/K081014.pdf

Also, the German model 'JOYCE' now has full marketing for both the gel model, with head strap now in 4 sizes (they added XL).

In the past the 'Joyce' has been the German Equivalent to the 'Soyala'.
http://www.weinmann.de/fileadmin/weinma ... N_0608.pdf

I'd be interested to know when someone finds the 'Soyala GEL' available in the US.

[sleepngo]

I hadn't heard about the gel cushions.

But as a new release, the odds are strong that it will come with the new HEADstrap headgear.

I did find application to the FDA for the 'Soyala GEL' which weinmann applied for on 4/8/08, and FDA approval granted on May 9,08.

http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/pdf8/K081014.pdf

Also, the German model 'JOYCE' now has full marketing for both the gel model, with head strap now in 4 sizes (they added XL).

In the past the 'Joyce' has been the German Equivalent to the 'Soyala'.
http://www.weinmann.de/fileadmin/weinma ... N_0608.pdf

I'd be interested to know when someone finds the 'Soyala GEL' available in the US.

When I spook with the Rep, she told me that the gel cushion had been on order for at least three months for the US dealers and that they should be available by the end of this month. She didn't say anything about the head gear being replaced. Also I forgot to ask if the silicone cushion will still be available and if they will be interchangeable. I hope they will be! A extra large Soyala would be a great addition to a really quiet mask. I forgot to ask if the gel is available for the FF Soyala that would be good as well.

Dan

[Guest]

Any updates on the suppliers in the US stocking this mask?

[sleepngo]

Any updates on the suppliers in the US stocking this mask?

I now have the large nasal and the large FF nasal mask with the standard cushion, got the FF mask by mistake when ordering the large nasal mask, provider said to keep and sent me the large nasal mask at no cost to me. So I tried both mask for about two weeks and both leaked until I tightened so tight that they were too uncomfortable to sleep with. The cushions are just too unforgiving and stiff, so both go into the Dud dower until I can get the Gel cushions and try it out, if the gel cushion doesn't work, at least for me. I will be trading or selling these three mask, hope that the gel is more comfortable and doesn't require as much pressure to achieve a good seal. I really like how quite the exhaust vent is on these mask. I'm going to contact somnotech tomorrow and find out when or were the gel cushions are available. As soon as I get some new information, will let you know.

Dan

[sleepngo]

Contacted Somnotech today and inquired about the availability of the new Gel cushion they said that the Gel cushions were shipped last week from Germany should be arriving at the dealers any day now. I guess the only thing to do now is contact a dealer and place an order for the replacement Gel cushion. I well contact the online dealer I bought the first Solaya from and request the they notify me when they arrive. Maybe someone else on this forum has more information than I, if so let us know?

Dan

[hairnet]

Any word yet on the gel cushion for the Soyala Nasal Mask. If it is available, has anyone tried it. I see it mentioned on their website but haven't seen it advertised for sale here in the U.S.

[sleepngo]

Any word yet on the gel cushion for the Soyala Nasal Mask. If it is available, has anyone tried it. I see it mentioned on their website but haven't seen it advertised for sale here in the U.S.

Called Pat Karem, CEO of Somnotech two weeks ago, he said the new gel cushions have arrived and that the dealers should be getting them in about four days. Waited about a week and called cpap.com and bestprice.com, neither dealer had received the cushions. Tony Ward of bestprice.com said that he has tried to order them but keeps getting the run around that they are on their way, that was a couple weeks ago. cpap.com said they don't carry parts for the Soyala masks, only the complete unit without the new gel cushion. I was also told, by Pat Karem, that the new gel cushion probably wouldn't make the mask fit, feel or seal any better than the old cushion, the only difference is it adds more density to mask.

I'm about to give up on this mask, what do you say?

Dan