Ostheopathy and Sleep Apnea

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Pierre
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Ostheopathy and Sleep Apnea

Post by Pierre » Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:11 am

Hello to all,

This is a post I wanted to initiate for a long time.

By coincidence, at the same time my apneas problem was discovered, I had an appointment with a doctor of Osteopathy.
While acting on me, she asked about my sleep quality (which I did not mention upfront).

Since my apnea was discovered at the same time, I have then been waiting for 4 weeks before getting the resmed machine. And the 2 first weeks of waiting were just following the osteopathy thing.
These 2 weeks have been just a miracle : all my energy and good mood back! I felt jsu great.
After 2 weeks, the effect disappeared. And I came back to the exact same situation as before.
And then I started using the Resmed machine, and things improved quite a lot, but never went back to the same as during these 2 weeks following osteopathy.
I met again several time with this doctor for osteopathy, but she never managed to get back to any similar result. She is still searching.

After some months of using my Resmed machine, I can conclude that these 2 weeks after osteopathy have certainly seen my apnea nearly disapeared, since the feeling was very close to what I feel when I manage to get an AI below 0.5

Did anyone experienced something similar, or heard/read something relating osteopathy and apenas?

Thanks

Pierre


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Post by cflame1 » Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:20 am

Not similar... I fired my osteopath. She got me a sleep study but couldn't/wouldn't offer me any medical support on my OSA and wouldn't refer me to somebody who could.

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Post by Julie » Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:01 am

You know, sometimes when we want to feel better, and someone offers us something new, we really do feel better, but it doesn't last as it's not a real answer, just the effect of optimism on desperation (or at least really needing some answer). It's what faith healers count on - an instant 'cure' - it's not phony for you to feel better, it's natural, but it's also why trials are carried out on new drugs to be sure what people experience is actual healing and not just feeling - it's why placebos 'work' temporarily. Whether that's what happened to you, or whether the treatment did make you feel generally well compared to no treatment, who knows, but Cpap is more likely to do the job long term for your OSA.


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Re: Ostheopathy and Sleep Apnea

Post by Sergey45 » Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:16 am

[quote="Pierre"]Hello to all,

This is a post I wanted to initiate for a long time.

By coincidence, at the same time my apneas problem was discovered, I had an appointment with a doctor of Osteopathy.
While acting on me, she asked about my sleep quality (which I did not mention upfront).

Since my apnea was discovered at the same time, I have then been waiting for 4 weeks before getting the resmed machine. And the 2 first weeks of waiting were just following the osteopathy thing.
These 2 weeks have been just a miracle : all my energy and good mood back! I felt jsu great.
After 2 weeks, the effect disappeared. And I came back to the exact same situation as before.
And then I started using the Resmed machine, and things improved quite a lot, but never went back to the same as during these 2 weeks following osteopathy.
I met again several time with this doctor for osteopathy, but she never managed to get back to any similar result. She is still searching.

After some months of using my Resmed machine, I can conclude that these 2 weeks after osteopathy have certainly seen my apnea nearly disapeared, since the feeling was very close to what I feel when I manage to get an AI below 0.5

Did anyone experienced something similar, or heard/read something relating osteopathy and apenas?

Thanks

Pierre


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Post by kteague » Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:52 pm

I too am curious about what treatment the osteopath gave you. I'm wondering if whatever they did benefitted you in ways that enabled you to better cope with the effects of sleep apnea those two weeks, but then the effects caught up with you again. I have a friend whose D.O. has been a godsend to her, but has never suggested helping with her sleep apnea.

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Post by alnhwrd » Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:30 pm

I googled Doctor of Osteopathy and got this:

Osteopathic physician
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A doctor of osteopathic medicine (D.O.) is a physician licensed to perform surgery and prescribe medication. Like an M.D., an osteopathic physician completes 4 years of medical school and can choose to practice in any specialty of medicine. However, osteopathic physicians receive an additional 300 to 500 hours in the study of hands-on manual medicine and the body's musculoskeletal system.

Osteopathic medicine is dedicated to treating and healing the entire patient as a whole, rather than focusing on one system or body part. An osteopathic physician will often use a treatment method called manipulation -- a hands-on approach to assure that the body is moving freely. This free motion ensures that all of your body's natural healing systems are free to work unhindered.

Oosteopathic physicians hold to the principle that a patient's history of illness and physical trauma are written into the body's structure. The osteopathic physician's highly developed sense of touch allows the physician to palpate (feel) the patient's "living anatomy" (the flow of fluids, motion and texture of tissues, and structural make-up).

The osteopathic physician's job is to "set" the body to heal itself. To do so, the osteopathic physician gently applies a precise amount of force to promote healthy movement of tissues, eliminate abnormal movements, and release compressed bones and joints. In addition, the areas being treated require proper positioning to assist the body's ability to regain normal tissue function. This process is called osteopathic manual medicine (OMM) or osteopathic manipulative treatment (OMT).

Over the years, the gap between "conventional" medicine and osteopathic medicine has narrowed, as M.D.s have embraced many of the premises of osteopathic medicine (such as recognizing the impact of stress on the immune system or posture on various body systems). In addition, D.O.s have incorporated the diagnostic and treatment techniques common to conventional medicine.

Doctors of osteopathic medicine may be found in nearly any health care setting, from community clinics and private practices to academic medical centers.

Like M.D.s, osteopathic physicians are licensed at the state level. Osteopathic physicians who wish to specialize may become "board certified" (in much the same manner as M.D.s) by completing a 2- to 6-year residency within the specialty area and passing the board certification exams.


Pierre, I cannot speak to how well Osteopathy works. I can say that CPAP works, and that the science behind it is solid, and that it is very simple and easy to understand how and why it works. You have a good little CPAP machine there, and it should give you great therapy for a long time, whether you go back to your Osteopath or not. The only ways that I know of to be sure that your apneas are gone are through a sleep study or by monitoring your data on your CPAP. If it was me, I would stick with the CPAP, practice good sleep hygiene, and in time that "just great" feeling just may return!