Remember all the threads about "cleaning" stuff?

Wulfman · Post by **Wulfman** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:54 pm

Y'all can draw your own conclusions from this article (which is actually from The Washington Post).

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=1 ... d=10274602

"That which doesn't kill ya........"

Den

rested gal · Post by **rested gal** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:04 pm

roster · Post by **roster** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:11 pm

Still others have patients with MS, colitis and related ailments swallow harmless parasitic worms to try to calm their bodies' misdirected defenses.

Yummie!

(Nice new photo RG)

Auntie_Rose · Post by **Auntie_Rose** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:11 pm

I have always known that cleaning was way over rated!! Yeah!!

Slinky · Post by **Slinky** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:20 pm

Remember the old adage "you have to eat a bushel of dirt before you die"?

The old timers obviously knew what they were talking about!

While there was reference to the health of kids raised on the farm vs kids raised in the city, there is STRONG EVIDENCE that many of these diseases and allergies are virtually non-existent in Third World countries, that they are health problems of the industrialized world. Statistics do NOT support that it is JUST a matter of less health care and thus less recognition in Third World countries.

This theory is not so new. It has been bandied about in the IBD (inflammatory bowel disease) research community for quite a few years now.

I have friends who have tried the sterilized worm eggs for their Crohn's disease, one fairly successfully before her money ran out. The University in Iowa didn't have the financing for FDA approval and the company who was willing to pick up the slack is in Germany. My USA Crohn's friend had to have her doctor write a letter approving her trying the "worm therapy" which she had to supply to the German comany along w/several thousand dollars for just the first batch.

RipVW · Post by **RipVW** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:39 pm

Well, I'm convinced. No more daily mask rinsing, weekend soakings in detergent, sterilizing. Just think of the money and time I'll save. And that humidifier water that I've been pouring out and replacing ever few days, now I'm going to wait until the tank gets really scummy before cleaning it out :<)

Slinky · Post by **Slinky** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:16 pm

But, Rip dear, youse 'ain't' no adolescent no more. It is in infancy and adolescence that your immune system receives its primary "eddykayshun".

Its too late now, my friend, too late (unless you made a lotta mud pies as a kid, maybe).

RipVW · Post by **RipVW** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:26 pm

Yep, guess I've gotta keep on cleaning. Hey, Slinky, how'd you know I'm not 12 anymore? Must be my picture ;<)

alnhwrd · Post by **alnhwrd** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:23 pm

So, this means that when I was a kid and I dropped my peanut butter sandwiches in the dirt, and then picked them up, bruched them off and ate them, it was a good thing?

JZ · Post by JZ » Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:44 pm

One theory is the "hygiene hypothesis," which blames growing up in increasingly sterile homes.

Whaa Hoo!! I should be fine then.

Seriously, I don't get too worked up over germs, but I have a streak of paranoia about cancer and heart disease.

For the year and a half I have been on cpap, I have not had a single cold or respiratory infection. Usually I can count on a cold or two a year. I can't imagine that there is much connection, but my lungs are pleased.

Janna

yamdigger · Post by **yamdigger** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:45 pm

I remember they actually did a study on the strength of the immune system of rats taken from;

a: the Labratory
b: the woods/feilds
c: the city sewers

Guess which set of the rats had the strongest resistance to disease. That's right! the ones from the sewers, while the Lab rats had the weakest.

I recall an article about the men who work down in the sewers of London, England. It was said that, those men who pretty much spent the most part of their working lives maintaining the sewers and then retire, often live well into their 80's and 90's easily. And they RARELY have any health problems up to when they die. Coincidence? I don't think so!

Sleepy Dog Lover · Post by **Sleepy Dog Lover** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:59 pm

I have said for a while that all these anti-bacterial soaps etc are bad for kids because they don't build up immunity. Guess I was right all along. Thanks for the article!

ozij · Post by **ozij** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:09 pm

Sleepy Dog Lover wrote:I have said for a while that all these anti-bacterial soaps etc are bad for kids because they don't build up immunity. Guess I was right all along. Thanks for the article!

The biggest problem with all those antibactirial soaps is that they build up the bacteria's immunity. Only the stronges bacteria survive. And beget more bacteria.

Just like the men who survived working in London's sewers.....

O.

Captain_Midnight · Post by **Captain_Midnight** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:11 pm

Poster Janna writes...For the year and a half I have been on cpap, I have not had a single cold or respiratory infection. Usually I can count on a cold or two a year. I can't imagine that there is much connection, but my lungs are pleased.

And, my experience is quite similar. I was good for 2 or 3 nasty colds per year; and, after 2+ years of CPAP (then AutoPAP), I have had maybe one, and that one was a weakie. (Although, I think that I may have had a few viruses do some touch-and-goes).

In my experience, pappian therapy reduces the frequency and severity of illness from viruses. (Also, the scientific lit has many examples of sleep disturbances reducing many key immune factors.)

sleepycarol · Post by **sleepycarol** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:09 am

My brother picks up garbage -- owns his own trucks etc. He lacks hygiene --doesn't like baths or showers and we don't know when he last bathed. Out of the 6 siblings guess which one of us is sickest the least?

Yep, him. Been picking up garbage for years and years.

Remember all the threads about "cleaning" stuff?

Remember all the threads about "cleaning" stuff?

CPAP and Killer T cells