Encore Pro Viewer

jskinner · Post by **jskinner** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:17 pm

I haven't had a chance to use Encore Pro Viewer yet. Am I correct in understanding that it does not remember information over time but only shows data that it just downloaded?

gasp · Post by **gasp** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 2:13 pm

[quote="jskinner"]I haven't had a chance to use Encore Pro Viewer yet. Am I correct in understanding that it does not remember information over time but only shows data that it just downloaded?

rested gal · Post by **rested gal** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 2:17 pm

Not sure if this is an answer to your question, but.... it never erases the Smart Card.

jskinner · Post by **jskinner** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 2:58 pm

rested gal wrote:Not sure if this is an answer to your question, but.... it never erases the Smart Card.

Actually I was trying to find out if the application stores previous downloads on the computer so that you can look at previous data. From what I can tell it does not? (ie It doesn't seem to have any database or data storage?)

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:27 pm

mine holds one week of the individual nights, but ongoing data such as you find on pages one and two and then the summary data on page 12

eljay · Post by **eljay** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:21 pm

It must be storing the data somewhere, because I can go back and run reports for any time period from the date the card started collecting data (Oct 23, 2007 for me.) The report only shows the daily details for the last 7 days of the period specified, but you can get daily details for any seven day period based on the what you specify as the starting and ending dates for the report. I generally download my card every morning so I can see the stats for the night before. I don't know where the info is stored, I haven't really looked in my files to see if I can find it, but I'd be glad to do so if you'd like, and if you could give me an idea of what kind of file it would be. I've heard great things about your Encore Pro Analyzer, and would love to see something similar for Encore Viewer.

goose · Post by **goose** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:35 pm

Hey James,
I do not use Viewer, however it is my understanding that it does not have a database to store data in as Pro does.....I think that's what you're asking.
That statement is from those that have used it as I understand it.....

The suggestions are that you go to a site...I think it's mycpap.org and you can download your card to there and another suggestion is to save the data as a .pdf file using a .pdf converter (there are a couple GPL packages that have been suggested -- I don't recall them off the top of my head). I also don't believe that EPA can be used with the Viewer program as there's no data to pull in.....

I'm still using Pro so I haven't had to offload the data yet.....Though I understand there is a 2GB limit to the SQL DB that Pro uses -- I'm not sure how long that will last.

cheers
goose

Roadie · Post by **Roadie** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:53 pm

Mr. Skinner,

Yes, Viewer does store the data somewhere. As you know it does not use the MSSQL data base as Pro does.

To the end user it presents essentially the same information formatted on the screen it very much the same way as Pro does. You are limited to something like 5 users per software installation. I for one would be thrilled if your software worked with Viewer since the way the information is presented on the screen with both Pro and Viewer is less than ideal for many things like viewing trends over time.

The viewer software does not give the end user the ability to manipulate the information on the card in any way short of cutting it up with scissors. Download it into your personal computer and view the information in the way they choose to present it to you, that's it. It is still a whole lot better than nothing, but it is still short of ideal.

Roadie

jskinner · Post by **jskinner** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:23 pm

I had a quick look at it today. Individual Smartcard downloads do get saved to XML files in the C:\Neo\SCDecodedFiles directory. This directory path name breaks every windows guideline that I know of... The Viewer program itself gets installed in the C:\ProgramData directory rather than C:\Program Files so I guess I shouldn't be surprised Clearly Resperonics is no better at writing windows programs... although the Viewer interface does seem simpler.

So techcinally I should be able to add support for EPA with some effort. I'm not sure how useful that would be however since will only ever show you one smartcard's amount of data? (6 months stats, 7 sessions detailed)

-James

Roadie · Post by **Roadie** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:54 pm

Could you write some software that would take the individual file or files and combine them in to some sort of unified archive file that your software would then use? If they won't provide you with the database like Pro, just make one yourself in a format that works well for your software.

Roadie

leonardlake · Post by **leonardlake** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:31 am

James,

Eljay above says that he can display the detail data for any seven day period since he started uploading his data to his PC. All the detail data must still be there if Encore Viewer can access it. I know that it would be a lot of work to search all those files each time to display the total amount of data in Encore Pro Analyzer.

Leonard

jskinner · Post by **jskinner** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:28 pm

Roadie wrote:Could you write some software that would take the individual file or files and combine them in to some sort of unified archive file that your software would then use? If they won't provide you with the database like Pro, just make one yourself in a format that works well for your software.

Its certainly technically possible. I would prefer not to start managing a copy of the data myself so I will explore how I might come up with a solution where I don't have to

leonardlake wrote:Eljay above says that he can display the detail data for any seven day period since he started uploading his data to his PC. All the detail data must still be there if Encore Viewer can access it. I know that it would be a lot of work to search all those files each time to display the total amount of data in Encore Pro Analyzer.

I'm going to have to do some more investigation with Encore Viewer to understand exactly what it is doing. I don't think I would want to have to read every XML into EPA or it would start getting very slow after a while.

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