Encore Pro - Best Practice for Data Management?

roster · Post by **roster** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:31 am

OK, this is what I am doing but I know there is a better way:

1. Every day I download the entire Smart Card with all the data.
2. I do not erase any data on the Smart Card.
3. The data base now has files in it for each day since I started. Each of the files has all of the daily data from the first day to the day of the download.

Should I delete all of the files except the current day (which has all of the data since day one)? Should I continue to leave all of the data on the card?

I am sure some of you are professionals at maintaining data bases. What is the best practice?

Thanks.

roster · Post by **roster** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 6:14 am

I am obsessing, aren't I?

lilsheba · Post by **lilsheba** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 6:21 am

I can d/l just the days I need, that I haven't d/l before, it doesn't d/l the entire card every time for me. I'm keeping them as pdf files.

gasp · Post by **gasp** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:29 am

First I created a subdirectory on my PC called Smart Card Data. Under that I make a subdirectory for each major influence on my AHI. Example:

Smart Card Data
Pur Sleep
MV Clear (scent)
MQ Deep(scent)
etc (MQ means Mirage Vista, MQ/Mirage Quattro, etc.)

This allows me to open a report and go to the last day and know what the results were for any given infuence.

For months I downloaded everyday, but now that I have consistent data I view a couple times a week.

Wulfman · Post by **Wulfman** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:49 am

Rooster,

I wouldn't worry about having OCD at this point.

If I had the M Series machines, I might have to do things differently because of the skipped nights of detailed data, but with the Legacy machines I don't have to.

I'm doing a test with one particular card this year to see if it'll run out of space for compliance data before the end of the year. I've heard different stories as to how much it WILL hold, so this year I'm trying to keep it all on one card. In my first year, I tried to do that, but ran into some message from Encore Pro at about 10 months and then switched cards which broke my continuity.

Awhile back, I found out that there's a 2 GB size limit on the SQL database for this software.....so, keep that in mind in a couple of years when you start approaching that filesize.

Since, I purchased the Encore Pro software and reader with my first machine (Pro 2), I was able to start downloading from the very beginning. And, since I didn't want to mess up that data, I've continued to do so. I prefer to view it as having a record of my compliance.....in addition to the success of my therapy, in case anybody at any time in the future needs to see.

Does that make me "obsessive"? I don't know......and I don't care!

Den

Metal-Fatigue · Post by **Metal-Fatigue** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 9:40 am

Here's what I do:

I know I can reliably get 7 nights data on my card and can push it to 8 nights. At 9 or more I start droping data. So I download my card each Saturday morning and erase the card. That gives me a weekly "file" the contains all my data. I also will usually download each morning without erasing the card just to see how I did. Come Saturday morning, I will erase all the mid-week downloads so as not to clog up the database with dual entrys. To keep the mid-week downloads separated from the weekly download, I will mark the weekly downloads as "unread". If you need to check which are which, a quick view of the "Summary" summary report will show you what nights that report covers.

This allows you to keep all your data with a minimum of reports but also see whats going on each night.

Scott

jskinner · Post by **jskinner** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:49 pm

rooster wrote:OK, this is what I am doing but I know there is a better way:

1. Every day I download the entire Smart Card with all the data.
2. I do not erase any data on the Smart Card.
3. The data base now has files in it for each day since I started. Each of the files has all of the daily data from the first day to the day of the download.

Should I delete all of the files except the current day (which has all of the data since day one)? Should I continue to leave all of the data on the card?

I am sure some of you are professionals at maintaining data bases. What is the best practice?

Thanks.

Why don't you set Encore Pro to delete the card after each download. That way you won't get redundant data.

Otherwise unless space is an issue I wouldn't' worry about it.

jskinner · Post by **jskinner** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:50 pm

lilsheba wrote:I can d/l just the days I need, that I haven't d/l before, it doesn't d/l the entire card every time for me.

I don't think that is possible?

jskinner · Post by **jskinner** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:53 pm

Wulfman wrote:I'm doing a test with one particular card this year to see if it'll run out of space for compliance data before the end of the year. I've heard different stories as to how much it WILL hold, so this year I'm trying to keep it all on one card.

I doubt that the card will fill up and stop accepting new data. It will likely work in a 'round robin' fashion just like the detailed data does. Basically when full it will just overwrite the oldest data.

Wulfman · Post by **Wulfman** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:07 pm

jskinner wrote:
Wulfman wrote:I'm doing a test with one particular card this year to see if it'll run out of space for compliance data before the end of the year. I've heard different stories as to how much it WILL hold, so this year I'm trying to keep it all on one card.
I doubt that the card will fill up and stop accepting new data. It will likely work in a 'round robin' fashion just like the detailed data does. Basically when full it will just overwrite the oldest data.

Probably not the best way to phrase that......
Yeah, I know it won't "run out of space", but I'm trying to see if it'll at least hold the whole year's worth of data before it starts overwriting the oldest compliance data. I've read various numbers of months, so I'm just trying to see for myself. I also don't know if there's a variation between the Legacy models and the M Series, either.

Den

lilsheba · Post by **lilsheba** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 7:11 pm

Ohhh I don't dare erase my card cause then the sleep center couldn't get their data

Goofproof · Post by **Goofproof** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 7:17 pm

lilsheba wrote:Ohhh I don't dare erase my card cause then the sleep center couldn't get their data

And then they wouldn't know how to treat you. Jim

lilsheba · Post by **lilsheba** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 7:22 pm

Goofproof wrote:
lilsheba wrote:Ohhh I don't dare erase my card cause then the sleep center couldn't get their data
And then they wouldn't know how to treat you. Jim

Exactly cause they are the experts and I'm just an ignorant user!!

jskinner · Post by **jskinner** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:29 pm

Wulfman wrote: I've read various numbers of months, so I'm just trying to see for myself.

From the Respironics website: "SmartCard: 6 months at 3 usage sessions per day, 7 days in-depth analysis"

Independent verification is always good however.

Snoredog · Post by **Snoredog** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:21 am

jskinner wrote:
Wulfman wrote:I'm doing a test with one particular card this year to see if it'll run out of space for compliance data before the end of the year. I've heard different stories as to how much it WILL hold, so this year I'm trying to keep it all on one card.
I doubt that the card will fill up and stop accepting new data. It will likely work in a 'round robin' fashion just like the detailed data does. Basically when full it will just overwrite the oldest data.

but you've seen how well they cleaned up the tables in the database, seeing that, you can only imagine how well the routines are that maintain the data on the card, I sometimes wonder how that machine ever turns on

It is like driving up to someone's house and seeing a messy front yard and when you knock on the door and look though the window and see a big mess inside you know it will still be there even after they open the door to let you in.

I always save my reports to PDF in a separate folder in PDF format and erase the card, that way I know things remain cleaned up, I've never lost a day on a report that I can recall not even on a M series machine. I realize I'm the exception here, but it sounds like user error to me

Mask	Humidifier

Additional Comments: Pursleep, Padacheek, Regenesis™ Pillow, Neti Pot, Travel Buddy hose hanger

Encore Pro - Best Practice for Data Management?

Encore Pro - Best Practice for Data Management?

Re: Encore Pro - Best Practice for Data Management?