Waking up Groggy???

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Waking up Groggy???

Post by atruvirgo » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:50 am

Ever since I started CPAP May 07...I have a hard time getting going in the morning. I feel groggy. Sort of a hung over feeling. I"ve slept okay for the past month or so. I have a pressure of straight 7 and I use a 406 petite nasal mask. Other than the normal fiddling with the mask off and on during the night it seems to be okay. My real complaint is I use to wake up fairly alert. Now I feel like I am in high school again "I don't want to go to school" (I am a school secretary ) My question is....is this "NORMAL" for cpap or is it just me?? The two unpleasant things I've noticed physically are morning drowsiness and some lightheadedness (mostly positional). My blood pressure is great so not a high/low problem. Please share if you too experienced this also and how long did it last?? Eventhough I don't want to "I have to go to school now"

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Post by Snoredog » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:01 am

my guess:

you woke up in deep sleep vs waking up in stage2 or REM. There is a wrist watch you can get which will wake you when you are in one of those other stages of sleep, supposed to be clinical evidence it works, but haven't tried it myself.

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Post by Wolfmarsh » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:08 am

I have this often, and I just get more sleep the next few nights and it goes away.

Also, I find that if i wake up on my own within 30-45 minutes of when I am supposed to get up, I just go ahead and get up instead of trying to fall back asleep for 30 minutes. I usually bounce right up on those mornings.

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Post by Goofproof » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:10 am

Or when using your nasal mask you may be suffering from mouthbreathing and not getting full use of your treatment. Jim
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Post by TerryB » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:18 am

And if the "usual fiddling with the mask" is happening too many times it is worse than the "arousals" of OSA that you didn't even realize were happening IMHO. I believe the sleep timing and total available time are also factors. You'll have to try to nail down each possible problem area and "get better".

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Post by ozij » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:46 am

With or without cpap, I wake up without the alarm -- on the rare occasions the alarm wakes me I feel pretty yecchy.

When I wake up naturaly, after a good night's sleep (and it can be pretty early) I feel relaxed. Its a pleasant feeling. I enjoy my coffee.

Before cpap I used to wake up early, sometimes in the middle of a choke of snore, always tense, somtimes with a headache. Sometimes - more on headache days - I was groggy and needed my coffee. And I never felt like staying in bed longer since by the time I woke my shoulder and neck muscles were scrunched, and bed was - semi conciously I would say - a basically unpleasant place to be.

Is it an unpleasant groginess you're feeling - or could it by your body's way of telling you "hey, this is good, I want more"?

If it's the first, then - everything they said,
If it's the second - can you maybe go to sleep earlier?

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waking up groggy

Post by thimarine » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:51 pm

Been on cpap for 3 months now. First month, after getting a new mask and not having to fiddle with it, I began to get the benefits of cpap. For about 2 weeks I woke up in the morning groggy and disoriented/confused. It was disconcerting at first. Now, I get up after 6 to 7 hours of sleep and feel refreshed. It helps going into a brightly lit room or looking out the window if the sun is up. I think my body was getting real sleep for the first time in years and it just didn't know how to react or maybe my brain couldn't process this new feeling. It went away for me. I've found staying up when I wake naturally and feel refreshed seems to work best for me. I think it is a normal part of the process for some of us.
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Post by jrfoster » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:06 pm

Goofproof wrote:Or when using your nasal mask you may be suffering from mouthbreathing and not getting full use of your treatment. Jim
Jim,
Just curious, you run your machine in AFLE mode with an 11-15 range, and your AHI for May was only 0.7? What was your titrated rate when you were tested?

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Post by tangents » Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:09 am

Hi TruVirgo,

I can totally relate. I'm four months into it now, and have consistently felt more tired than I did before CPAP. Just last weekend I woke up after a "normal" amount of sleep (8.5 hours) feeling rested. I had taken July 5th and 6th off, so I slept a lot prior to the weekend. I was hoping that I had turned the corner, but now at Thursday after 4 days of (only) 8 hours of sleep, I'm really tired again, and wanted to "stay home from school"! I even hit the snooze twice this morning, something I rarely do.

I contemplate the size of my sleep debt a lot. And sometimes wonder if it's all just more propoganda pushed on sleep deprived chumps like me.

I need some more coffee...

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Post by atruvirgo » Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:19 am

Didn't use CPAP last night. Came home form work at 4 and to put it gently "vomited and had a fever" until 10pm. So needless to say I skipped CPAP. Weird thing is..once I fell asleep I slept clear through and woke up alert at 6am. So strange!

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Post by dinkytink » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:20 am

Yes, I've been experiencing the grogginess upon wakening that you have, atruvirgo. But the way I look at it, it's a great bargain for being totally awake the rest of the day. Maybe there's a Compressed Grogginess Factor we can blame it on.

I'm only two months in, though. Any oldtimers out there have any input on whether it is a temporary phenomenon? My morning headaches proved not to be a permanent thing.

Atruvirgo, we are both "sleepers in training".

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