Variable Breathing in Encore Pro Analyzer

ProfessorEd · Post by **ProfessorEd** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:15 pm

I just installed Encore Pro Analyzer.

I noticed one of the variables tabulated was "variable breathing".

This ia a term I am not familar with. I was wondering what was being measured here, and how the numbers might be interpreted?

Dpending on the day, the percentage ranged from 70% to 0%.

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MLefholtz · Post by **MLefholtz** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 7:15 pm

Hope we get an answer. I wonder too.

Mike

Snoredog · Post by **Snoredog** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 7:33 pm

it can be found here:
myencore.php

Fraction of Time in Variable Breathing: "Variable breathing" is defined as the situation when a person is not undergoing the quiet steady breathing of several stages of sleep. In particular, according to the Respironics patent" it happens during wakefulness, distress, and REM sleep. This chart may be taken as an indication of how "peaceful" a night was. Since REM sleep is a desirable state, some variable breathing is obviously a good thing.

MLefholtz · Post by **MLefholtz** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 7:50 pm

Thank you Snoredog.

Haven't been around long enough to have seen that. Makes sense now. My sleep goes up and down with post nasal drip and back/leg pain. I have noticed higher variable breathing scores on my "bad nights."

mike

laurabel · Post by **laurabel** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:34 am

Why do I not get this chart in my statistics????

Wulfman... · Post by **Wulfman...** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:30 am

laurabel wrote:Why do I not get this chart in my statistics????

If you don't have MyEncore or Encore Pro Analyzer, you won't see it. It only shows up in those two add-on programs and because the data was there in the database when Derek wrote MyEncore.....so he made a report for it. We really don't know what it means.....I've always suspected it's relative to each person's breathing.
My average is usually in the upper 20's......with swings from the teens to about forty.

Den

laurabel · Post by **laurabel** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:58 am

I do have encore pro and analyzer but this chart is always blank. I am using Remstar Auto(no cflex) Machine isn't on the list. Thank you

Wulfman... · Post by **Wulfman...** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:06 am

laurabel wrote:I do have encore pro and analyzer but this chart is always blank. I am using Remstar Auto(no cflex) Machine isn't on the list. Thank you

If it's an "old" Auto (pre-C-Flex), that may account for the missing VB stats.
I wouldn't worry about it.....it's only added confucion to the software, anyway.

Den

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:26 am

Nothing simple ever happens to me. 2 computers, one running Vista and one running XP.
Encore Pro 1.8 loaded and runnig on XP, cannot get it up and running on Vista. To really complicate the proble, I can't get past the EULA confirmation page on the computer with XP (loads fine on Vista).
When I try loading 1.8 on the Vista machine it will not find the card reader.

Wulfman... · Post by **Wulfman...** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:20 am

Anonymous wrote:Nothing simple ever happens to me. 2 computers, one running Vista and one running XP.
Encore Pro 1.8 loaded and runnig on XP, cannot get it up and running on Vista. To really complicate the proble, I can't get past the EULA confirmation page on the computer with XP (loads fine on Vista).
When I try loading 1.8 on the Vista machine it will not find the card reader.

Are you sure you've got "Administrative rights" to everything? I've never seen Vista (and really don't want to), but from reading about some of the installation procedures on the forum, it sounds like that has to be enabled in various instances.

Den

oceanpearl · Post by **oceanpearl** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:50 am

I am logged in on both computers as administrator.

ProfessorEd · Post by **ProfessorEd** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:57 am

Because the description of the variable breathing measurement as including:

“"Variable breathing" is defined as the situation when a person is not undergoing the quiet steady breathing of several stages of sleep. In particular, according to the Respironics patent" it happens during wakefulness, distress, and REM sleep.”

A high level or a low level could be caused by several things and one does not know which.

However, if this measure was broken down by hours ( or parts of the night) it might be easier to interpret. People spend a period of time falling asleep and a period of variable breathing at the beginning of the night is presumably due to being awake.

However, later on it may indicate REM sleep. A measure calculated during a time when you could be presumed to be asleep might indicate the amount of REM sleep, something that is otherwise hard to measure outside of a sleep lap,

Of course, people do wake up during the night and it is hard to separate this from REM sleep or disturbed sleep. However, if the machine is turned off each time (i.e for a bathroom visit) or the mask removed, one could imagine software that disregarded a few minutes after each such interval.

However, unless I missed something there is no way to break the variable breathing down by time in the data sets (or am I wrong)?

It looks like Respironics devised the measure, patented it, put it in the software, but it is of little use now. It may be in the software for marketing purposes (if no other brand has it, something to boast of). However, it could be defended as keeping an option open. If at some point research shows a use for it, it would be available in the machines. Up to that time it can be disregarded. Am I right?

jskinner · Post by **jskinner** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:16 am

oceanpearl wrote:I am logged in on both computers as administrator.

Just because you are logged in as an administer under Vista doesn't mean you are running with administrator rights. This is a major difference between XP and Vista. Even administrators run with regular privileges unless told to do otherwise. This confuses many new Vista users but is a major step forward security wise. You can run any program in Vista with true admin rights by right clicking on the application and selecting 'Run as administrator'

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