Newbie seeking help to reduce AHI as low as possible - Oscar data

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Newbie seeking help to reduce AHI as low as possible - Oscar data

Post by ArtieZiff » Mon Dec 22, 2025 4:18 pm

Hello,

I have been reading the forum for months, and I am hoping that you might be able to help me to drive down my AHI below 1.0. Honestly, I've used my machine for a year and a half, and on only one night did I feel anywhere near rested. It was a night with a very low AHI.

Machine: Resmed AirSense 11
Mask: F&P Simplus
Conditions: I definitely suffer from dry mouth, and possibly mask leaks. I also move a lot during the night, mostly sleeping on my side.

I see the doctor very infrequently, and am kind of flying solo on this. I am hoping that some setting tweaks will help me, but I do not know what. I also would appreciate any suggestions for a better mask. This one whistles significantly.

Here is my data from Oscar for a fairly typical night. If I've done this wrong, I ask for your patience, as I am totally new to posting.

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Re: Newbie seeking help to reduce AHI as low as possible - Oscar data

Post by Pugsy » Mon Dec 22, 2025 4:30 pm

Could you replace the mask pressure graph with the regular pressure graph, please?
The mask pressure graph isn't all that useful unless we are zooming in for a breath by breath look.
You don't did to redo this one but keep it in mind for future report sharing.

Are you experiencing any or much nasal congestion?

Do you absolutely have to use a full face mask?

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Post by ArtieZiff » Mon Dec 22, 2025 4:36 pm

My apologies. Hopefully this one is correct.
As for full face masks, I am a mouth-breather by far. I do not think a nasal mask would work for me.

Thank you!

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Post by Pugsy » Mon Dec 22, 2025 4:52 pm

I haven't ever used a full face mask so I have zero personal experience to draw upon but there are some newer (newer than the Simplus) full face mask models out there that you might find more to your liking.
They have less real estate touching the skin so less area to potentially leak.

F & P has the Evora full face
https://www.cpap.com/products/evora-ful ... 0383082812

ResMed has a couple of similar masks
the AirFit F40 https://www.cpap.com/products/resmed-ai ... 0759882044
the AirFit F30 https://www.cpap.com/products/resmed-ai ... 0759882044
the AirFit F30i https://www.cpap.com/products/resmed-ai ... 5689979196
or the clear version memory foam version
https://www.cpap.com/products/resmed-ai ... 0829035836

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Post by ArtieZiff » Mon Dec 22, 2025 5:43 pm

Thank you for the masks. I’ll have to take another look at the under-nose variety. I initially had trouble with them due to my jaw dropping open at night and the nose part pulling away. That said,
I’m sure there has been progress since then.

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Re: Newbie seeking help to reduce AHI as low as possible - Oscar data

Post by ozij » Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:05 pm

According the present graph you're spending half the night at a pressure of 13.92, or above it.

If you look at the way the pressure change, you can see it zooms up in response to flow limitations, resolves them, and then drops back down to where the FL's start happening, at which point your sleep is already disrupted, you may be opening your mouth, and the machine starts playing catch up.

This makes me think that if your minimum pressure were higher, you'd have less FL's and better sleep. FL's disrupt your sleep, possibly make you opein your mouth and that causes leaks.

So if this were my data, I'd start raising my minimum pressure gradually. How gradually? Depends on your tolerance for the change. And keep the new setting for a number or nights before adding more: our bodies and brains need time to get used to the change.

Take a look at your other nights and pay attention to the median pressure, and to the relationship between the flow limitations and the pressure.

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Post by zonker » Tue Dec 23, 2025 12:04 am

in behind ozij to support what she says.

the good news with having a resmed machine is that you can raise your minimum pressure by increments of .1 which can be helpful if you find too much pressure gives you aerophagia.

also want to say that at this point in your journey, don't be too concerned with getting your ahi at 1. a better goal is to find the right combo of settings to let you sleep through the night and wake up feeling rested. you never know, that ahi might just be 2!

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Post by ArtieZiff » Tue Dec 23, 2025 11:22 am

Thank you both so much! I increased the minimum to 9.0 and the EPR to 3 to see what would happen. There seemed to be fewer incidents, but the leak rate seems a bit more dramatic. Tonight I will pay extra attention to the mask straps and fit. I think it might be trending in the right direction. I also appreciate the advice about just finding a comfortable sleep, without worrying about the 1.0 AHI. I will definitely say that I felt a difference last night; I agree--satisfying sleep is the goal, not numbers! This was my data last night:
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Post by Sleepzilla » Tue Dec 23, 2025 12:28 pm

Be aware that AHI is only one sleep quality metric, which indicates the total number of apneas and hypopneas only, divided by the total hours of sleep for the recorded session.

Also, the "total time in apnea" reported at the bottom of the "statistics" section in the "details" tab of the sidebar is often a more useful indicator of session sleep quality than the actual number of apnea events detected. This because the machine may detect and address many of the OSA events without arousal from sleep. The "events" tab provides better visibility to the duration of each event detected and recorded.

Your OSCAR reports indicate that Respiratory Effort-Related Arousal (RERA) events are also being detected, which are also likely detrimental to your sleep quality. The ResMed AirSense AutoSet machines are capable of detecting and recording RERA events by monitoring the combination of flow limitation and increased effort, but they do not respond to them directly. However, as shown in your most recent report, it's possible—and even likely—that optimizing your OSA therapy may reduce RERA occurrence too. More general info on RERA here, if interested.

It's important to note that RERA events are not included in reported Apnea Hypopnea Index (AHI) for the session.

It's great that your working on reducing the leaks. Notice in the Leak Rate graph in your first shared OSCAR report how the leaks were brief in duration and relatively low flow. But in your more recent report the leaks are both sustained and with significantly greater flow. These are the kinds of leaks that are more likely to impact ability of the machine to respond to OSA and hypopnea events. They're also more likely to arouse you from sleep.

Also note the dotted red line making an appearance at the top of the most recent Leak Rate graph. ResMed designates any leak that exceeds 24 liters per minute as a Large Leak (LL) event and will flag it as such in the report.

Regarding dialing in APAP pressure settings to the tightest effective band: It's generally good practice to start by setting the minimum machine pressure a bit below the average median pressure reported over several sessions in OSCAR, and setting the maximum machine pressure a bit above the 95% pressure reported in OSCAR. The greater the time period for your OSCAR history, the more practical this method seems to be.

Basically you want the machine pressure to be able to meander as tightly as practically possible between min and max pressures without bouncing off of the ceiling and floor.

Your most recent report looks pretty good. You might give yourself a few days to get used to the new pressures. If it continues to look like this you might even trying creeping up a bit more on your min pressure to 10 or so, and perhaps down on your max to 16.

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Post by ArtieZiff » Tue Dec 23, 2025 6:44 pm

Wow! I appreciate the thoughtful explanation, and I am finally coming to feel a bit more confident about this equipment.

I think I will, as advised, leave it as-is for some days, just to acclimate to it. My mask adjustment from day to day is a bit of “you win some, you lose some.”

In days to come, I will most likely try bumping the minimum up to 10 and the maximum down a bit. Hopefully the higher minimum will be sufficient to keep the airway open!

In the long-term, I will ask the doctor for a different full-face mask—possibly one with foam instead, and also order a better chin strap. I am currently using the ResMed one, but I don’t think it has any effect.

Thank you all for your assistance. I am learning so much!

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Post by ejbpesca » Wed Dec 24, 2025 11:29 am

By raising your Min pressure, the Med and 95% pressures came down. The machine quit tapping out at 20 cm, and AHI lowered as well as Flow Limitations. This is evidence of what improvements can be made with a pressure adjustment. Congratulations.

Some may suggest a bit higher Min pressure to decrease FLs more. Others realize FLs can be caused by issues other than what PAP therapy can resolve. Your call.

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Post by ArtieZiff » Wed Dec 31, 2025 5:35 pm

Thank you! I have been acclimating myself to the pressure changes, and after seeing the results, I do think that bumping up the minimum and bumping down the max might be helpful. Here is a recent night, if anybody has time to take a look:

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Post by zonker » Wed Dec 31, 2025 5:56 pm

ArtieZiff wrote:
Wed Dec 31, 2025 5:35 pm
Thank you! I have been acclimating myself to the pressure changes, and after seeing the results, I do think that bumping up the minimum and bumping down the max might be helpful. Here is a recent night, if anybody has time to take a look:

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yup. minimum could be 10 or higher, up to you.

I see no need to reduce the maximum. machine won't go higher than it needs to anyway.

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Post by ejbpesca » Sun Jan 04, 2026 2:03 pm

Med (median) pressure is up, indicating Min will be more effective at a higher setting. Raising Min until it is close to Med is fine tuning your therapy pressure for fewer fluctuations.

You can see from the red line that Min 9 is not your optimum therapy pressure. Trying Min 10 will help find it.

AHI is good, but there are Flow Limitations to consider. Look back at OSCAR charts at the 95% FL scores. There are debates over these scores. FLs can be caused by factors that PAP therapy cannot address. Some go to great lengths to improve the scores, feeling that FLs disturb their sleep. I have come to accept my scores of Med 0.00 and 95% 0.07 as doing well. Your 95% score of .18 on Dec 29 may be normal for you. You may want to research Flow Limitations to understand them.

Using EPR 3 is often said to be accompanied by Min pressure addition of 1cm per cm of EPR pressure relief, which is another reason to raise the Min.

No CAs, or Large Leaks and Leak Rate 0.00s is something you have that many struggle to achieve, but never make it. Good for you.

Max can be left at 20 or fine-tuned down as long as it is not reached. Your setting of 19 was bumped once. That is not significant, so 19 is okay. The higher you raise the Min, the less you will see the red pressure line rise. A smooth red pressure line can help with sleep quality.

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