Disabling 'turn off airplane mode' prompt on Resmed AirSense 11?

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Disabling 'turn off airplane mode' prompt on Resmed AirSense 11?

Post by PossibleHuman » Tue Sep 17, 2024 2:50 pm

I keep my AirSense 11 device on airplane mode at nearly all times (except to get firmware updates).

Is there a way to disable the prompt to turn off airplane mode?
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Re: Disabling 'turn off airmode mode' prompt on Resmed AirSense 11?

Post by Dog Slobber » Tue Sep 17, 2024 3:30 pm

PossibleHuman wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 2:50 pm
I keep my AirSense 11 device on airplane mode at nearly all times (except to get firmware updates).

Is there a way to disable the prompt to turn off airplane mode?
No.

Why do you put it in airplane mode?
When you take it out of airplane mode, for the updates, all your data is then uploaded.
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Re: Disabling 'turn off airmode mode' prompt on Resmed AirSense 11?

Post by PossibleHuman » Tue Sep 17, 2024 4:55 pm

Thanks for the info.
Dog Slobber wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 3:30 pm
When you take it out of airplane mode, for the updates, all your data is then uploaded.
This is a good point and perhaps I shouldn't bother. I don't have an account with ResMed and don't think that the manufacturer has any reason to have any data from my device.

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Re: Disabling 'turn off airmode mode' prompt on Resmed AirSense 11?

Post by ChicagoGranny » Tue Sep 17, 2024 5:03 pm

PossibleHuman wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 4:55 pm
the manufacturer has any reason to have any data from my device.
The manufacturer doesn't care about your data or mine. They never look at it.

They care about collective data. It's an important tool they use to improve their products, particularly the algorithms that drive their auto-adjusting machines.
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Re: Disabling 'turn off airmode mode' prompt on Resmed AirSense 11?

Post by PossibleHuman » Tue Sep 17, 2024 5:07 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 5:03 pm
PossibleHuman wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 4:55 pm
the manufacturer has any reason to have any data from my device.
The manufacturer doesn't care about your data or mine. They never look at it.
I don't see how this is relevant? They don't have a right to any data on a device I own and operate.

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Re: Disabling 'turn off airmode mode' prompt on Resmed AirSense 11?

Post by Dog Slobber » Wed Sep 18, 2024 6:54 am

PossibleHuman wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 5:07 pm
ChicagoGranny wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 5:03 pm
PossibleHuman wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 4:55 pm
the manufacturer has any reason to have any data from my device.
The manufacturer doesn't care about your data or mine. They never look at it.
I don't see how this is relevant? They don't have a right to any data on a device I own and operate.
It's relevant because you incorrectly stated, ResMed has no reason to access your data. Granny stated one of many reasons they use your data/

Yes, they do have a right. By using the device, you give consent.

In the user documentation, they explicitly inform you that the device is connected and sends the data to ResMed. Therefore, you using the device, knowing about this behaviour, gives consent and they therefore they have the right.
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Re: Disabling 'turn off airmode mode' prompt on Resmed AirSense 11?

Post by PossibleHuman » Wed Sep 18, 2024 6:58 am

Dog Slobber wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2024 6:54 am
Granny stated one of many reasons they use your data
I don't see how this is relevant? They don't have a right to any data on a device I own and operate.
Yes, they do have a right. By using the device, you give consent.
Correction: By using the device, you give data. Not consent. This is why I keep it on airplane mode (and due to your reminder will not be turning it off).
In the user documentation, they explicitly inform you that the device is connected and sends the data to ResMed.
Therefore, you using the device, knowing about this behaviour, gives consent and they therefore they have the right.
And this is why we need better laws to ensure control of devices. But that is beyond the scope of this thread and forum.

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Re: Disabling 'turn off airmode mode' prompt on Resmed AirSense 11?

Post by Dog Slobber » Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:27 am

Repeatedly asserting they don't have the right doesn't make it true. You don't understand what consent is, in the legal context.

In the legal context, consent is: acting freely and voluntarily and having knowledge of the nature of the act or transaction involved.

Has anybody been forcing you to use your device? No.
Do you have knowledge of the behaviour of the device? Yes.

Therefore you have consented.

This is no different that walking into an area where there are signs informing you, you're being video-recorded, and then stating that they don't have the right to record you.
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Re: Disabling 'turn off airmode mode' prompt on Resmed AirSense 11?

Post by PossibleHuman » Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:41 am

Dog Slobber wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:27 am
Repeatedly asserting they don't have the right doesn't make it true. You don't understand what consent is, in the legal context.

In the legal context, consent is: acting freely and voluntarily and having knowledge of the nature of the act or transaction involved.
I understand consent in a legal context far better than you'd expect. You're not even correct. You don't even know which jurisdiction I am in. However I am using the word "right" in a moral/normative context rather than legal.
This is no different that walking into an area where there are signs informing you, you're being video-recorded, and then stating that they don't have the right to record you.
This is not a valid analogy considering this is a device that I own and operate in my personal home.


I have no further interest in continuing this thread of conversation. I have the actual answer to the question I asked. For that, I am appreciative.

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