Give 'em a couple more days.
That, or they realized
it's a stupid idea.
it's a stupid idea.
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Your sleep is disrupted by the movements, which also disrupt your breathing. I doubt you can have any volitional control of those movements - maybe a weighted blanket? I don't know.Albatros wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:24 amYes it is true.
Sleep apneas thanks to CPAP therapy are no longer the cause of my sleep problems.
PLM's are the cause.
My only point with my Post was to notice the link between movement and apnea. It seems that the process is as follows: the movements (turning right left/left tight, I assume) lead to strong disturbances of the Flow rate, which degenerate into apneas.
Therefore, even if it looks obvious, a good practice might be to learn getting body positions which limit the movements ?
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In that case, a better practice would be to use a body position app.Albatros wrote:Therefore, even if it looks obvious, a good practice might be to learn getting body positions which limit the movements ?
What you are describing is a post-arousal central apnea, which is usually quite distinguishable by simply looking at the flow rate.Albatros wrote: It seems that the process is as follows: the movements (turning right left/left tight, I assume) lead to strong disturbances of the Flow rate, which degenerate into apneas.
The present invention detects and distinguishes PLM and/or PLM arousals by means of comparing sub-cortical arousals inferred from blood pressure variations with cortical
arousals (EEG). Cortical arousals are used to distinguish sleep-fragmentation and neurological related arousals versus sub-cortical arousals which generally include both sleep fragmentation and neurological related arousals and PLM-related arousals.
Had to read this about 3 times. And I'm still not sure I got it.Rubicon wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:15 amOK I confess. The idea of an integrated system has been around forever. I thought WatchPAT might have combined with somebody and put something together using PAT. Maybe it'll still happen. Or maybe the necessity of creating such a product (read: "market") isn't there.
PLMs?
Yeah, they thought about it:
The present invention detects and distinguishes PLM and/or PLM arousals by means of comparing sub-cortical arousals inferred from blood pressure variations with cortical
arousals (EEG). Cortical arousals are used to distinguish sleep-fragmentation and neurological related arousals versus sub-cortical arousals which generally include both sleep fragmentation and neurological related arousals and PLM-related arousals.
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In addition, their decision tree would also have to incorporate AASM Scoring Rules For PLMs. The above excerpt is from the ResMed US 8,069,852 B2 patent, but I assume it would be nearly identical to the WatchPAT algorithm-- PAT changes w/o breathing changes then it's a piece o'cake. Will try to find that image...ozij wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:17 amSo if an arousal is sub-cortical, how do they know it's a PLM and not the one of the first two? Or do they mean there has to be a cortical arousal accompanying the sub-cortical in order to distinguish it from a PLM, and a PLM arousal is only sub-cortical? Meaning sub-cortical without cortical has to a be a PLM?
No scurring here, just watchful waiting to see how you justify that movement and oximetry data incorporation would be a stupid idea.
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Yup!
"Scurrying "
Quite interesting !
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I recommend settling in.
"Working by hindsight
Got the message from the oxygen"
https://youtu.be/z92avHmgDRA?si=kAMD_vQn-DpfXr5g
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