Tooth extractions causing sleep apnea?

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Tooth extractions causing sleep apnea?

Post by knarf » Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:49 pm

I was about to get my wisdom teeth extracted so that when I get a mandibular advancement device, it can wrap distally around my 2nd molar.
But then I came across this article: https://doctorstevenpark.com/can-tooth- ... leep-apnea
To be sure, the article talks about orthodontic extraction and retraction. In those situations the mechanism of action seems to make sense.
My situation is not the same, as I am just removing wisdom teeth. With that being said there seem to be some anecdotes in the comments section mentioning wisdom teeth, although I don't want to put too much weight on anonymous anecdotes.
I did briefly correspond with him through email, and he mentioned that there might a link between extractions in general and airway size.
What do you think?

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Re: Tooth extractions causing sleep apnea?

Post by ChicagoGranny » Mon Oct 16, 2023 3:08 pm

knarf wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:49 pm
I was about to get my wisdom teeth extracted so that when I get a mandibular advancement device, it can wrap distally around my 2nd molar.
As this stands alone, this doesn't make a bit of sense. Are there other reasons to have your wisdom teeth extracted?

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Re: Tooth extractions causing sleep apnea?

Post by knarf » Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:11 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 3:08 pm
As this stands alone, this doesn't make a bit of sense. Are there other reasons to have your wisdom teeth extracted?
The other reason is that one of the wisdom teeth is completely horizontal, creating a pocket that is sort of hard to clean. (I can manage if I use a floss pick). Anyways I'm also wondering how this forum feels about MAD devices in general. Do they work well? Do they have long term side effects?

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Re: Tooth extractions causing sleep apnea?

Post by ChicagoGranny » Mon Oct 16, 2023 5:27 pm

knarf wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:11 pm
Do they work well?
Yes, for a few people. For most people, no. CPAP is the gold standard for sleep apnea treatment.
knarf wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:11 pm
Do they have long term side effects?
Jaw problems, teeth problems, gum problems.

Gramps and I each have custom-made MADs. I could tell you our experiences, but you want to know what your experience will be, not the experience of others.

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Re: Tooth extractions causing sleep apnea?

Post by ozij » Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:27 pm

A link between the two does not mean one causes the other.

From infancy to adulthood there's a link between shoe size and height. "Large shoes causing height gain"? Of for that matter, "Large shoes causing improved math skill?)

Wisdom don't grow well when you have to many teeth for the size of you jaw. And a smaller jaw may have a causal link to sleep apnea.

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Re: Tooth extractions causing sleep apnea?

Post by ChicagoGranny » Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:45 am

ozij wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:27 pm
too many teeth for the size of your jaw
*too little jaw for 32 teeth

ozij wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:27 pm
And a smaller jaw may have a causal link to sleep apnea.
97% of OSA cases

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Re: Tooth extractions causing sleep apnea?

Post by chunkyfrog » Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:44 pm

Since around 35% of people never get wisdom teeth,
it is likely most of us can do quite well without them.
If there are no problems with them, logic says to leave them alone.
(Spares might come in handy.)
I wonder about a dentist who wants to remove them to make room for an appliance.
Especially considering the failure rate for such money pits.

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