Gas Stoves and Apnea

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Gas Stoves and Apnea

Post by chunkyfrog » Sat Jan 28, 2023 1:35 pm

We already know that combustion by-products in the home can exacerbate asthma.
It is now known that leaking can occur even with the appliance off.
Just curious; how many out there still have gas heat or gas cook stoves?
The bullfrog and I eliminated gas in our home back in the 80's.
The cost was greater here for gas than for electricity, (the utility was ripping us off),
and the difference has increased in the last 40 years.
Gas may be more economical elsewhere, but I love not having gas in my home.
One less health hazard--happy frogs.

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Re: Gas Stoves and Apnea

Post by loggerhead12 » Sat Jan 28, 2023 3:39 pm

Gas furnace, gas water heaters, gas stove, and gas-start fireplace here.

I love a gas stove. Won't use electric unless the wackos make me.

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Re: Gas Stoves and Apnea

Post by chunkyfrog » Sat Jan 28, 2023 4:48 pm

loggerhead12 wrote:
Sat Jan 28, 2023 3:39 pm
Gas furnace, gas water heaters, gas stove, and gas-start fireplace here.

I love a gas stove. Won't use electric unless the wackos make me.
I had a gas furnace toss me across the basement--and singed one eyebrow.
Nobody made me change, but the greedy gas company made it a no-brainer.
Cooking with electricity is no problem at all, more efficient, too.
Baking is exactly the same--except cleaning the oven is a snap.
No harsh chemicals--just set the clean cycle--it all burns out.
Cleaning the ceramic rangetop is easy, too--just a glass scraper.
We have converted three houses from greedy gas to all electric.

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Re: Gas Stoves and Apnea

Post by D.H. » Sat Jan 28, 2023 8:00 pm

They won't remove your gas stove from existing housing.

Only new housing is potentially affected!

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Re: Gas Stoves and Apnea

Post by Okie bipap » Sat Jan 28, 2023 8:12 pm

We have had both gas and electric appliances over the years. Where we currently live, it is cheaper to heat and cook with gas than electricity. We are currently using gas which I prefer. I would actually prefer a hybrid stove with gas cook top and electric oven. To do that, I would need to have a new service and breaker panel installed as we only have a 100 amp service.

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Re: Gas Stoves and Apnea

Post by palerider » Sat Jan 28, 2023 8:39 pm

loggerhead12 wrote:
Sat Jan 28, 2023 3:39 pm
Won't use electric unless the wackos make me.
We're perfectly happy for you to slowly poison yourself.

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Re: Gas Stoves and Apnea

Post by lazarus » Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:16 pm

Up until six years ago, all gas.

Since then, all electric.

I tell myself, 'If cruise-ship chefs can do what they do with all electric, I shouldn't complain.'
Okie bipap wrote:
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would actually prefer a hybrid stove with gas cook top and electric oven.
That would also be my preference.
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Re: Gas Stoves and Apnea

Post by chunkyfrog » Sat Jan 28, 2023 10:10 pm

I would upgrade to an induction top with a resistance oven.
Of course, the microwave stays.
Our 50 year old resistance furnace finally died--love to install a heat pump.
Sad so many chefs refuse to use green energy.
It is really no challenge at all. Wimps!

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Re: Gas Stoves and Apnea

Post by palerider » Sun Jan 29, 2023 12:54 am

chunkyfrog wrote:
Sat Jan 28, 2023 10:10 pm
I would upgrade to an induction top with a resistance oven.
Of course, the microwave stays.
Our 50 year old resistance furnace finally died--love to install a heat pump.
Sad so many chefs refuse to use green energy.
It is really no challenge at all. Wimps!
MMMMmmm Induction.

Those things are *great*, and way *WAY* more efficient than gas.

There's a video floating around out there of a guy in a commercial kitchen, that goes to boil a liter of water, using a commercial high BTU gas burner, an induction unit, an induction wok, and a couple of plug in consumer grade induction units.

The wok beat everything, then commercial induction was a few seconds behind, then the little plug in units, and last was the commercial high BTU gas burner. most of the heat in those things goes around whatever pot is sitting on them :D

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Re: Gas Stoves and Apnea

Post by jtravel » Sun Jan 29, 2023 4:47 am

I have all Gas appliances but have no problem replacing with electric when they need replacement. I gather Gas appliances are safe as long as they are vented to the outdoors properly. Heater, Hot water heater and Dryer are all vented. Stoves/ovens seem to be the biggest problem as many don't have a exhaust hood with exterior venting. Mine does vent to the outside but the fan needs to be running whenever it is in use and that does not always happen. Very small leaks in Gas lines and appliances when off is a concern to be considered as well.

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Re: Gas Stoves and Apnea

Post by Ray4852 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:55 am

these people that make up this BS are brain dead. anybody told me gas is dangerous to the environment and bad for my health get two middle fingers from me. if people want to use electric, go for it. don't tell me that I have to use it. gas is clean. propane or nature gas. if your power goes out, you can still cook with it. if your power goes out with electric. how do you live on electric only. we can also cook with wood, coal and heat with it. I'm using coal right now with my boiler. how many here ever had to live without electric for 30 days or more. I have. how did the people live back 500 year ago. they had brains and not afraid to live. people wake up. our grid is so old and out dated. if it ever went down. 50 percent of people would die in 6 months. wake up and start thinking. its time we shove these wok people off to the side so we can go on and live our lives the way we want to live.

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Post by Aretino » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:57 am

Gas 4 me

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Re: Gas Stoves and Apnea

Post by kteague » Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:06 am

All electric here on the west coast, and since I'm not a long timer here, I'm ok with not having gas in earthquake country.

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Re: Gas Stoves and Apnea

Post by loggerhead12 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:31 am

Okie bipap wrote:
Sat Jan 28, 2023 8:12 pm
I would actually prefer a hybrid stove with gas cook top and electric oven.
That's what we have. It's the ideal combo.

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Re: Gas Stoves and Apnea

Post by Conrad » Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:53 am

chunkyfrog wrote:
Sat Jan 28, 2023 1:35 pm
We already know that combustion by-products in the home can exacerbate asthma.
It is now known that leaking can occur even with the appliance off.
Just curious; how many out there still have gas heat or gas cook stoves?
The bullfrog and I eliminated gas in our home back in the 80's.
The cost was greater here for gas than for electricity, (the utility was ripping us off),
and the difference has increased in the last 40 years.
Gas may be more economical elsewhere, but I love not having gas in my home.
One less health hazard--happy frogs.
What is this 'leaking' you're talking about above? What's leaking? The gas? If so, the installation was done incorrectly. An electric stove can be installed incorrectly as well. Nothing will leak but if not installed correctly a shock hazard could be present.
chunkyfrog wrote:
Sat Jan 28, 2023 4:48 pm
loggerhead12 wrote:
Sat Jan 28, 2023 3:39 pm
Gas furnace, gas water heaters, gas stove, and gas-start fireplace here.

I love a gas stove. Won't use electric unless the wackos make me.
I had a gas furnace toss me across the basement--and singed one eyebrow.
Nobody made me change, but the greedy gas company made it a no-brainer.
Cooking with electricity is no problem at all, more efficient, too.
Baking is exactly the same--except cleaning the oven is a snap.
No harsh chemicals--just set the clean cycle--it all burns out.
Cleaning the ceramic rangetop is easy, too--just a glass scraper.
We have converted three houses from greedy gas to all electric.
"We already know that combustion by-products in the home can exacerbate asthma."
"No harsh chemicals--just set the clean cycle--it all burns out."

When the self-cleaning cycle is used in an electric oven, where do you think most of that 'burned up' stuff goes? I doubt that crap in the air is doing anyone with asthma any favors.

That said, we use natural gas for everything in our house except for the stove. Natural gas water heaters are WAY more efficient than electric heaters.

We have a gas fireplace downstairs (finished basement) and a woodstove upstairs. If we lose power in the winter, no problems keeping the house warm.

"I had a gas furnace toss me across the basement--and singed one eyebrow."

Electricity has its hazards too, if you don't know what you're doing that is, sometimes even when you do know.

Sorry, if the furnace tossed you across the basement, you must have been doing something wrong, right?
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