Since using the Pur-sleep oils

JeffH · Post by **JeffH** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:40 am

I have been staying asleep for longer periods of time than I used to. Last night I only woke up once! I can't remember the last time that happened. The only thing I've changed in my treatment habits is adding the oils to my APAP. Before I started using the oils, I would wake up 3 to 5 times every single night. There's got to be something to this.

Thanks Sleepguy.

jennie_len · Post by **jennie_len** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:24 pm

What are these oils for? I am totally new to all of this, so....

=)

muld00n · Post by **muld00n** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:45 pm

jennie_len wrote:What are these oils for? I am totally new to all of this, so....

=)

Read this thread...

viewtopic/t17513/essential-oils.html

and look at this site: http://www.pur-sleep.com

Steve

Snoredog · Post by **Snoredog** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:53 pm

[quote="JeffH"] There's got to be something to this.

Thanks Sleepguy.

DreamStalker · Post by **DreamStalker** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:30 pm

I had a similar concern SD ... regarding flow restriction and/or affects on auto algorithm.

It does not have a screen or filter. It uses a small (1/4 inch) cylindrical piece of cotton held in postion in the center of the diffuser. A drop of oil is placed on the cotton, absorbed, and allowed to diffuse into air flow stream. The diffuser is designed to allow the air flow to pass around the cotton unrestricted ... at least no more restricted than through an HH system like the HC150.

As to whether it needs to be FDA approved? ... That question is out of my league ... I'm not a lawyer but I think SlepGuy is.

I think if you factually check out the diffuser system for yourself, I think you will agree that it posses no adverse effects in terms of system air flow or auto algorithm.

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Wistful · Post by **Wistful** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:34 pm

It would be interesting if you used one of the oils with lavender, as there have been studies to show that it is helpful in acheiveing and maintaining deep sleep.
It seems the majority of us who have tried the pur-sleep have had favorable results, and when it comes to sleeping through the night, I cannot as an apneac lessen the value of such a product
I hope you keep sleeping well!
Wistful

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:35 pm

[quote="DreamStalker"]As to whether it needs to be FDA approved? ... That question is out of my league ... I'm not a lawyer but I think SlepGuy is.

I am not sure what sleepguy is gonna think about being called slepguy! LOL

Sleepy-eyes · Post by **Sleepy-eyes** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:04 pm

[quote="Snoredog"][quote="JeffH"] There's got to be something to this.

Thanks Sleepguy.

WearyOne · Post by **WearyOne** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:38 pm

Personally, I don't have one of these, but I'm thinking more and more about trying one. Although I don't have links or studies to provide, I know people who have benefited from essential oils burning in their room, everything from something to help them be more alert, to those that help you relax. So to me, it stands to reason it could also help a person relax and sleep better in the cpap air.

Only thing, I'm still not sure about if it would "mess up" the cpap air delivery at all.

(I love lavender!).

Pam

Snoredog · Post by **Snoredog** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:47 pm

Sleepy-eyes wrote:
Snoredog,

I'm sure you are just playing the Devil's Advocate here. My assumption is you haven't bought one of the Pur-Sleep diffusers to know what you are talking about.

You would be correct because SleepGuy hasn't bothered to answer the question at hand. Go to the website, look for FDA approval, you will NOT find it, you WILL find an answer in FAQ's dodging the bullet claiming "essential oil" is "cosmetic" and not subject to FDA approval. Well guess what that is an incorrect statement and avoids the issue and the person who wrote it knows that and intentionally avoided the issue. I'd be willing to bet money the FDA would think otherwise.

It is the diffuser device I am talking about that is required to have FDA approval as a medical device because it goes in-circuit and may interfere with the normal operation of a regulated medical device.

Sleepy-eyes wrote: Does the diffuser impede airflow? Absolutely not.

How do you know?
Do you have a iron lung or scientific instruments to test it?
If so where are your results?

Your testimonial means absolutely NOTHING as to weather or not it has been tested by an independent lab to CONFIRM it doesn't impede the normal operation of the machine. You have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

Sleepy-eyes wrote: The tiny little pad is suspended in the middle of a bulb, with more square inches in area open around it than the smaller diameter of the fitting the hose is attached to. So it, in no way, impedes airflow. Is it placebo? Nope. My sleep times have increase by 50%.............starting with the night I started using the system. I'd say thats just a mite more than the result of a coincidence.

again your testimony means NOTHING.

bdp522 · Post by **bdp522** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:49 pm

It doesn't seem to bother my treatment. My AHI seems to be just a little lower than normal. But my hours of use are higher. I now sleep 8 hours(unless the alarm wakes me). I also feel even more well rested since starting the pur-sleep.

Brenda

dsm · Post by **dsm** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:15 pm

I have one of these pur-sleep devices & am happy to (when I can ) test it plus use a mannometer to see if there is any evidence of altered pressures etc:

I agree with SD's concerns but based on DreamStalkers comments & looking at the device, I am not immediately worried.

As to the legal aspects, somehow I think the law ends at the air exit port of the cpap machine. I am sure that air hoses & masks are not subject to medical control & can be bought openly (see eBay).

Cheers

DSM

Snoredog · Post by **Snoredog** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:27 pm

[quote="dsm"]I have one of these pur-sleep devices & am happy to (when I can ) test it plus use a mannometer to see if there is any evidence of altered pressures etc:

I agree with SD's concerns but based on DreamStalkers comments & looking at the device, I am not immediately worried.

As to the legal aspects, somehow I think the law ends at the air exit port of the cpap machine. I am sure that air hoses & masks are not subject to medical control & can be bought openly (see eBay).

Cheers

DSM

WearyOne · Post by **WearyOne** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:48 pm

Snoredog, Okay, I really don't know the answer to this. What's the difference between "pressure" and "flow related"? Would "flow" be the machine being able to sense what my breathing is doing possibly being impaired so it might not be able to "read" apneas, snoring, etc., properly that it needs to respond to or keep a record of?

Pam

JeffH · Post by **JeffH** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:27 pm

WearyOne wrote:Snoredog, Okay, I really don't know the answer to this. What's the difference between "pressure" and "flow related"? Would "flow" be the machine being able to sense what my breathing is doing possibly being impaired so it might not be able to "read" apneas, snoring, etc., properly that it needs to respond to or keep a record of?

Pam

Looks like you have a CPAP machine, which even Snoredog says should not be effected by the Pur-sleep system. When he speaks of "flow" he is talking about what an autopap does.

You should be fine using the Pur-sleep system.

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