Do I really need the software?

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Do I really need the software?

Post by track » Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:34 am

I started out like a cpap blind man in December at 4-12 pressure and have evolved to 8-12.6, then 9-14 and the last few nights to 10-15 pressure on my apap machine.(no sleep lab and thus no titration number) My machine readout has consistently put my 95% number between 11.8 and 13.8. My AHI at 4-12 was running 8-10 with AI running 3 and now it's running 4-7 with AI from .2 to 1.2. My numbers at 9-13 are about the same as they are at 10-15. The AHI varies each night within the range I listed above. The best one night AHI I have had was 3.5.

My wife says I don't snore now or she doesn't hear me anymore...and before we could not sleep in the same bed or room with my snoring. I use the mask when I take naps too and typically feel better than when I sleep without a mask. I am not overweight and I don't drink more than one beer or a glass of wine before dinner...if any of that matters.

I don't have leak issues...my leak rate typically runs from .22 to .32 L/sec....which is very good for my mask at the pressure I am at according to the manufacturers leak rate for my mask. I have no compliants with the treatment I am currently getting and I am sleeping pretty good although 6 hours is usually my number..but then it's always been. It's always better to know more but at what price?

I have located a software supplier and it's going to run me 200 bucks. I could get a new mask for that price or half a new driver for my golf game so I don't take the 200 dollars lightly....but if the software is really going to improve my treatment then of course I will get it. What do you think...software or no software?

PS...ingnore the profile machine and software. I have a resmed Autoset spirit with heated humidifier but no software.
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Re: Do I really need the software?

Post by NightHawkeye » Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:45 am

track wrote: What do you think...software or no software?
LOL. Track, I think you're the kind of guy who really wants to justify getting the software. Given that your treatment seems to be working;
- Do you need it? NO.
- Would it improve your therapy? Maybe minimally.
- Would it improve your understanding? Yes.
- Would it be a new toy for you? Yes.

So, that's what I think.

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Post by Guest » Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:45 am

No, you don't need it. Would it be helpful if you had it? YES! Would it help you moderate your own therapy so it works? YES! Would it make you live longer than a new "driver"? YES! (though some might disagree)

Personally, if I had a choice between software and no software, I'd do anything I could to choose the software. I wouldn't be where I am today in my therapy if it hadn't been for being able to read my data every morning. I've been able to tweak my machine and am starting to make things work in my favor.

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Post by track » Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:49 am

Bill.........."Would it be a new toy for you? Yes."

LMAO....bingo. I love recording my numbers and checking my progress. It's the very first thing I do in the morning and sometimes when I wake up in the middle of the night I check my numbers.

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Post by track » Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:53 am

Sleepyeyes......I am down with that,...YES YES YES... but I am not sure my wife agrees. As far as she is concerned I don't snore anymore and that's all that matters...what the hell do I need the software for....get HER a new driver.

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Post by frete50 » Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:38 am

Track,

Just pm'd you

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Post by JeffH » Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:38 am

You need the software. Until I got it I was using the readout on the machine for my info and it was leading me in the wrong direction. I ended up with my machine set WAY too high and had poor sleep as a result. The software tells you so much more of what's going on than the readout on the machine. In fact, I would go so far as to say don't trust the readout on the machine. If you have things set up wrong, it will give you wrong information.

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Post by SleepingBeauty » Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:46 am

I didn't think I needed or wanted the software to monitor myself either. I figured I would KNOW if I got a good night's sleep. Ha!

I finally purchased one of the bundle packages with software, reader, etc. and have never regretted it for one second.

I trudge downstairs to the computer with my card in my hand and read my stats first thing every morning. I love tracking my progress and tweaking my pressures.

I also have insurance that will be really slow to grant another sleep study, so I'd rather just monitor and adjust myself rather than jump through those hoops again.

Maybe it's just the way my woman shopper's brain functions, but I figure I am actually saving money by having the software. I won't have to pay a big copay for another sleep study in a few years.

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Post by Goofproof » Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:49 am

track wrote:Sleepyeyes......I am down with that,...YES YES YES... but I am not sure my wife agrees. As far as she is concerned I don't snore anymore and that's all that matters...what the hell do I need the software for....get HER a new driver.
But it you don't treat yourself in the best way you can, your demise will come sooner, then She will get a New Driver. He will probably be younger, and he will be driving your money. Jim
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Post by Wulfman » Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:52 am

track wrote:What do you think...software or no software?
I noticed you didn't ask "Software or golf driver?"

Somehow I have a feeling you'll get BOTH.

Have a good one.

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Post by track » Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:59 am

Den....I already have a half dozen drivers with shafts in them that run from 100 dollars to 350 for just the shaft....so I need a new driver like I need a hole in the head....but they keep promising another 20 yards so I keep buying them.

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Post by track » Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:01 am

Maybe it's just the way my woman shopper's brain functions

It's not just a "woman" brain.....mine has been thinking along the same lines.

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Post by oceanpearl » Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:05 am

track wrote:Den....I already have a half dozen drivers with shafts in them that run from 100 dollars to 350 for just the shaft....so I need a new driver like I need a hole in the head....but they keep promising another 20 yards so I keep buying them.
If all the money that I spent on clubs had gone into lessons, I would now be playing on the Seniors Tour!
I just want to go back to sleep!

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Post by oceanpearl » Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:07 am

Anonymous wrote:No, you don't need it. Would it be helpful if you had it? YES! Would it help you moderate your own therapy so it works? YES! Would it make you live longer than a new "driver"? YES! (though some might disagree)

Personally, if I had a choice between software and no software, I'd do anything I could to choose the software. I wouldn't be where I am today in my therapy if it hadn't been for being able to read my data every morning. I've been able to tweak my machine and am starting to make things work in my favor.
I guess that only one company makes the readers and software???????
I just want to go back to sleep!

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Post by Wulfman » Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:17 am

track wrote:Den....I already have a half dozen drivers with shafts in them that run from 100 dollars to 350 for just the shaft....so I need a new driver like I need a hole in the head....but they keep promising another 20 yards so I keep buying them.
I thought "golf" was SUPPOSED to be about exercise, anyway...... (unless you're a Pro and are in it for the money)
I bought a set of clubs about 40 years ago (still have them) but got frustrated with that silly game and finally quit altogether in the mid 70's.....I was getting TOO much exercise. (couldn't keep the ball in the fairway)

Besides, the green fees were getting too expensive for the sake of exercise.

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