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Heated tubing question

Post by Sandy20 » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:31 am

Hello, I am new to this board. I’m having trouble with water dripping on my face at night and my mouth drying out. I have a heated tube but I have found that on the nights when I wake due to the water my tube does not feel warm. When I turn my machine on to go to sleep, the tube feels warm when I touch it but seems to cool off. Could this be the answer? Should my tube be staying warm all night?
I am using the resmed Airsense 10 with a full face mask and heated tubing.
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Re: Heated tubing question

Post by Pugsy » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:00 am

First thing to do is some detective work.

What is your ambient bedroom humidity?
What is your humidity setting?
What is your hose air temp setting?

If you don't know how to find the answers to the machine questions...it's in the clinical manual.
https://www.respshop.com/manuals/ResMed ... %20her.pdf

Read posts number 2 and 3 here
viewtopic/t94035/Pugsys-Pointers-3Deali ... -road.html

Easiest fix when using a heated hose...turn up the hose air temp setting.

Dry mouth usually means mouth breathing and depending on the humidity setting and your mouth....sometimes even max humidity setting isn't enough to fix the dry mouth issues. Lots of full face mask users end up adding some sort of oral hydrating agent to their mouth at bedtime.
But maybe there is some room to increase your humidity setting and have it help but of course that will make the condensation/rain out in the mask probably worse. So have to fix the rain out first.

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Re: Heated tubing question

Post by LSAT » Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:33 am

Your body temperature is 98.6....the air in a heated hose at 80 degrees may not feel warm to you. The air inside the hose is heated. You may not feel the hose itself get very warm.

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Re: Heated tubing question

Post by zorki1c » Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:53 am

When I first go to bed my heated hose warms up noticeably. But after a while it kind of settles back I guess after it gets everything up to temperature. That’s normal

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Re: Heated tubing question

Post by albabbie » Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:08 am

Sandy20 wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:31 am
Hello, I am new to this board. I’m having trouble with water dripping on my face at night and my mouth drying out. I have a heated tube but I have found that on the nights when I wake due to the water my tube does not feel warm. When I turn my machine on to go to sleep, the tube feels warm when I touch it but seems to cool off. Could this be the answer? Should my tube be staying warm all night?
I am using the resmed Airsense 10 with a full face mask and heated tubing.
Thank you
Sandy.
Only way to know for sure would be to get an infrared thermometer and check the temperature of the airflow at the time you think its cooled off. Our perception of temperature is very subjective.

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Re: Heated tubing question

Post by Pugsy » Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:13 am

albabbie wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:08 am
Sandy20 wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:31 am
Hello, I am new to this board. I’m having trouble with water dripping on my face at night and my mouth drying out. I have a heated tube but I have found that on the nights when I wake due to the water my tube does not feel warm. When I turn my machine on to go to sleep, the tube feels warm when I touch it but seems to cool off. Could this be the answer? Should my tube be staying warm all night?
I am using the resmed Airsense 10 with a full face mask and heated tubing.
Thank you
Sandy.
Only way to know for sure would be to get an infrared thermometer and check the temperature of the airflow at the time you think its cooled off. Our perception of temperature is very subjective.

Actually we can use a digital cooking thermometer as well. Just turn the machine on and let it blow for about 15 minutes and stick the thermometer in the mask end (without mask attached) and as long as the digital thermometer will go down low enough...it can be tested that way and we don't need a specialized infrared. I have a cheap cooking thermometer and it will do the job just fine. I have tested it. 8 bucks off Amazon I think it was.

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Re: Heated tubing question

Post by albabbie » Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:25 pm

Pugsy wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:13 am
albabbie wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:08 am
Sandy20 wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:31 am
Hello, I am new to this board. I’m having trouble with water dripping on my face at night and my mouth drying out. I have a heated tube but I have found that on the nights when I wake due to the water my tube does not feel warm. When I turn my machine on to go to sleep, the tube feels warm when I touch it but seems to cool off. Could this be the answer? Should my tube be staying warm all night?
I am using the resmed Airsense 10 with a full face mask and heated tubing.
Thank you
Sandy.
Only way to know for sure would be to get an infrared thermometer and check the temperature of the airflow at the time you think its cooled off. Our perception of temperature is very subjective.

Actually we can use a digital cooking thermometer as well. Just turn the machine on and let it blow for about 15 minutes and stick the thermometer in the mask end (without mask attached) and as long as the digital thermometer will go down low enough...it can be tested that way and we don't need a specialized infrared. I have a cheap cooking thermometer and it will do the job just fine. I have tested it. 8 bucks off Amazon I think it was.
I like to spend money and be fancy, my bad haha

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Re: Heated tubing question

Post by zonker » Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:35 pm

albabbie wrote:
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Re: Heated tubing question

Post by Pugsy » Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:36 pm

albabbie wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:25 pm
I like to spend money and be fancy, my bad haha
:lol: :lol: :lol:

And I am the queen of cheap.

Not many people will have an infrared thermometer laying around but a lot of people will have some sort of digital thermometer laying around. I need to dig out my regular human (stick in your mouth) thermometer and see if it will also work. Unfortunately...it is doing a good job of hiding from me at the moment. I can never find it when I am looking for it and when not looking for it...right on top of things.

The only real problem I had with what you said was when you said
"the only way"....which might lead someone who didn't know about this stuff to think that they just HAD to go buy an infrared thermometer. Maybe a better choice of words might have been "one way". Words matter sometimes. I get a bit OCD about words or wording sometimes because I know that sometimes words can cause confusion and I like to avoid confusion whenever possible.
Lord knows this whole cpap stuff is confusing enough to newbies without wording of something adding to the confusion.

I do understand the lure of new gadgets though. I just got a new more hand friendly mouse that I need to unpack and set up.
And the mouse I am currently using works just fine but my arthritis in my thumb is acting up again (the shot I got last summer is wearing off) and next available appt for a new joint injection is Feb 22....so I am hoping a new more thumb friendly mouse will help a bit with the pain.

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Re: Heated tubing question

Post by palerider » Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:47 pm

albabbie wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:08 am
Only way to know for sure would be to get an infrared thermometer and check the temperature of the airflow at the time you think its cooled off. Our perception of temperature is very subjective.
You can't do that with an IR thermometer, what you'll be reading is whatever surface is on the other side of the airflow, not the airflow itself.

And don't have anything that is reflective of IR, (like aluminum, or stainless steel) because you'll end up reading the temp of whatever is reflected by the metal, not the metal itself.

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Re: Heated tubing question

Post by rdfry » Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:53 pm

I would buy a cheap humidity monitor. Then you will know what the humidty in your room is an can make adjustments.
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Re: Heated tubing question

Post by Pugsy » Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:24 pm

rdfry wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:53 pm
I would buy a cheap humidity monitor. Then you will know what the humidty in your room is an can make adjustments.
It's not the humidity in the room that is the most important factor in controlling rain out.
It's the ambient room temperature.

Plus knowing the ambient humidity doesn't really tell you much about what humidity setting to use anyway because most of the machines nowadays have humidity sensors in the machines and they take ambient humidity into consideration when adding heat to the water so that humidity gets added. If the ambient humidity is already high and higher than what the humidity setting will deliver then the machine simply won't heat the water.

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Re: Heated tubing question

Post by rdfry » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:27 pm

These cheap humidity monitors also provide temperature. Thanks for informing me.
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Re: Heated tubing question

Post by Pugsy » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:37 pm

rdfry wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:27 pm
These cheap humidity monitors also provide temperature. Thanks for informing me.
Yep....they do temperature as well. I got a cheap one off of Amazon quite some time ago...cost about 8 bucks with free delivery since I have Prime account.

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