Need a non-welt producing Full Face mask - HELP!!

[jas77]

I need a non-welt producing Full Face mask. Nasal masks do not provide me with sufficient restraint to prevent leaks. And as you all know leaks invalidate much of analysis software’s output. I have both Dreamwear mask types. The Dreamwear Velcro felt pads only marginally reduce welts caused by the full-face. I know I shouldn’t chase a zero AHI but I have come very close but only when my restraints are tight. In fact unless my restraints are tight my scores are all over the map from 3.0 to 8.0 and vary ridiculously night to night.
The full-face has 4 restraint points where as the nasal mask has only 2. I just bought a Tap PAP nasal mask that is unique due to its pliant molded bite-plate that seems to hold the nasal device fairly well but not enough to prevent the nasal pillows that insert into your nostrils from becoming dislodged during sleep. Very frustrating because it caused no welts and tests, while awake, were excellent. Where do I go next. Is there something proven to prevent welts I could use WITH my Dreamwear FF mask? Or is there a non Resmed or non Philips Respironics FF mask I could buy. Help!!
Below I expound on my problems with the nasal mask and how I use my Wellue ORing Oximeter ($179.00) which is supported by excellent analysis SW for PC and smartphone.
The nasal mask leaks the most when I am sleeping my best because that is when I have my most vivid dreams (I’m either fighting or loving LOL) that cause me to move around a lot. But the movement does not impact my oxygen which is usually flat-lined at, at least, 98% for long periods of time. I suspect some of this flat-line (once for 4 ¼ hrs.) would be REM sleep. Because my dreams are so vivid I’ve been wakened by my Oximeter Ring’s vibrating high Heart Rate alert (I set my threshold to 110 for high and 40 for low). I rarely get woken by an oxygen drop vibrating alert (my threshold is set for 92% - default is 88%) probably because I keep my Minimum Pressure set close to my Average Pressure used level. I should add, the high HR is of no concern in the above scenario because it is the result of excitement in my dream not movement (which the ORing tracts very well) and not a deep oxygen drop.

[chunkyfrog]

Yikes!
The welts are caused by tightening your straps too tight.
Don't do that!

[Julie]

Vivid and violent dreams usually go with untreated apnea... boring normal ones don't. You're not being treated properly and need to find (at least) a mask that works for you. Also, post some Oscar info so we can see if other things (e.g. pressures) are ideal or need retweaking.

[chunkyfrog]

And please fill out your profile, re: your equipment.

[LSAT]

Most FF masks do not cause welts unless you are not fitting them properly...Over my 12 years, I have used the Quattro, the F20, the F&P Simplus and the F&P Vitera. They all fit well with few leaks and no welts. I still have all of them and change off occasionally. Maybe you just need a mask liner for your mask...check out padacheek.com.

[chunkyfrog]

. . . restraint . . . restraints . . . restraint points . . .

S & M?
Bondage?
Ummmm, you are supposed to be SLEEPING!
Loosen that stuff up!

[khauser]

Re: loosening your mask (as many have suggested) ... the mask should never have to be "wrenched down" so tight as to cause discomfort. All of the masks have a silicone portion that is meant to somewhat inflate and seal against your face, as long as the mask you have reasonably fits your face.
Since I don't know your gender, I will add that if you have facial hair, it'll be that much extra difficult to make any mask other than nasal, nasal pillows, etc. produce a seal. But people have done it...

[ChicagoGranny]

I have both Dreamwear mask types.

1. Take the mask you think has the best chance of suiting you.
2. Go to youtube and find videos on proper adjusting (and fitting) for you mask. Watch four or five videos carefully.

Millions of people use CPAP masks successfully without overtightening.