Max possible AHI is 360!

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Max possible AHI is 360!

Post by D.H. » Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:26 pm

This is the theoretical max. It is based on the idea that an Apnea consists of ten seconds or more, and this is one tenth the number of seconds in an hour. Really it's lower, because this calculation doesn't allow any time between events.

I say this because I saw some posters calming very high numbers and I thought that some of these numbers are physically impossible; so I did the calculation. As it turns out, nobody made any claims in excess if this amount.

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Re: Max possible AHI is 360!

Post by palerider » Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:37 pm

D.H. wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:26 pm
This is the theoretical max. It is based on the idea that an Apnea consists of ten seconds or more, and this is one tenth the number of seconds in an hour. Really it's lower, because this calculation doesn't allow any time between events.

I say this because I saw some posters calming very high numbers and I thought that some of these numbers are physically impossible; so I did the calculation. As it turns out, nobody made any claims in excess if this amount.
Why do you post such stupid things?

It's impossible to have an AHI of 360, because you have to have a breath to end an apnea, so you *could not* have 6 apneas scored in a minute, it's impossible.

Ergo, you are ... as so very often. Wrong.

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Re: Max possible AHI is 360!

Post by D.H. » Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:54 pm

palerider wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:37 pm
D.H. wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:26 pm
This is the theoretical max. It is based on the idea that an Apnea consists of ten seconds or more, and this is one tenth the number of seconds in an hour. Really it's lower, because this calculation doesn't allow any time between events.

I say this because I saw some posters calming very high numbers and I thought that some of these numbers are physically impossible; so I did the calculation. As it turns out, nobody made any claims in excess if this amount.
Why do you post such stupid things?

It's impossible to have an AHI of 360, because you have to have a breath to end an apnea, so you *could not* have 6 apneas scored in a minute, it's impossible.

Ergo, you are ... as so very often. Wrong.
You will note that I said it's really lower, and I gave that exact reason!

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Re: Max possible AHI is 360!

Post by jimbud » Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:00 pm

D.H. wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:26 pm
As it turns out, nobody made any claims in excess if this amount.
How could they?
They would all be dead. :wink:

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Re: Max possible AHI is 360!

Post by palerider » Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:26 pm

D.H. wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:54 pm
palerider wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:37 pm
D.H. wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:26 pm
This is the theoretical max. It is based on the idea that an Apnea consists of ten seconds or more, and this is one tenth the number of seconds in an hour. Really it's lower, because this calculation doesn't allow any time between events.

I say this because I saw some posters calming very high numbers and I thought that some of these numbers are physically impossible; so I did the calculation. As it turns out, nobody made any claims in excess if this amount.
Why do you post such stupid things?

It's impossible to have an AHI of 360, because you have to have a breath to end an apnea, so you *could not* have 6 apneas scored in a minute, it's impossible.

Ergo, you are ... as so very often. Wrong.
You will note that I said it's really lower, and I gave that exact reason!
"This is the theoretical max." <- that statement is *patently* false, for the reasons that I stated. ergo, your post, like most of your posts, is fallacious.

Even if one were to assume 10 seconds of apnea followed by ONE breath, you couldn't even get *five* 10 second plus apneas into a minute.

Ergo,"theoretical" max AHI is more like 240-300, more likely 260ish.

Try thinking before you post, it'd be a REFRESHING change for the rest of us.

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Re: Max possible AHI is 360!

Post by palerider » Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:33 pm

jimbud wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:00 pm
D.H. wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:26 pm
As it turns out, nobody made any claims in excess if this amount.
How could they?
They would all be dead. :wink:

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Yeah, that "max possible AHI" wouldn't last more than 5-7 minutes...

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Re: Max possible AHI is 360!

Post by Raticate » Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:52 pm

ThAnk you DH you are a genius man these other posters had me thinking I was wrong but you showed I am not. What I seen and read was accurate

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Post by Raticate » Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:55 pm

I like your posts DH

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Re: Max possible AHI is 360!

Post by Goofproof » Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:02 pm

I said you would move in with him! Jim Peas in a pod...
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Re: Max possible AHI is 360!

Post by D.H. » Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:33 pm

jimbud wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:00 pm
D.H. wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:26 pm
As it turns out, nobody made any claims in excess if this amount.
How could they?
They would all be dead. :wink:

JPB
My statement was that 360 is the theoretical numerical max without allowing any time between events (so it's really lower). Of course, the reality is that Apnea this bad would kill you in the first hour!

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Re: Max possible AHI is 360!

Post by Geer1 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:18 pm

AHI of 360 is actually closer to an AHI of 0.05 because it would actually be 1 long apnea and after ~ 3 minutes you would be dead...

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Re: Max possible AHI is 360!

Post by palerider » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:26 pm

Geer1 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:18 pm
AHI of 360 is actually closer to an AHI of 0.05 because it would actually be 1 long apnea and after ~ 3 minutes you would be dead...
More blabbering about things you don't understand.

"In 2012, German freediver Tom Sietas held his breath underwater for 22 minutes and 22 seconds, besting Dane Stig Severinsen's previous Guinness record by 22 seconds. (Although Guinness still lists Severinsen as the record holder, stating he hyperventilated with oxygen before his attempt for 19 minutes and 30 seconds.)"

"three minutes" :roll:

You and D.H> DO make a lovely couple, though.

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Re: Max possible AHI is 360!

Post by Geer1 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:39 pm

palerider wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:26 pm
More blabbering about things you don't understand.

"In 2012, German freediver Tom Sietas held his breath underwater for 22 minutes and 22 seconds, besting Dane Stig Severinsen's previous Guinness record by 22 seconds. (Although Guinness still lists Severinsen as the record holder, stating he hyperventilated with oxygen before his attempt for 19 minutes and 30 seconds.)"

"three minutes" :roll:

You and D.H> DO make a lovely couple, though.
Even if you hyperventilated on oxygen and were capable of holding your breath the same length as the world record holder your AHI would only be 0.36.

Do us a favour and hold your breath for 3 minutes if you believe I am wrong...

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Re: Max possible AHI is 360!

Post by palerider » Sat Dec 07, 2019 12:52 am

Geer1 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:39 pm
palerider wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:26 pm
More blabbering about things you don't understand.

"In 2012, German freediver Tom Sietas held his breath underwater for 22 minutes and 22 seconds, besting Dane Stig Severinsen's previous Guinness record by 22 seconds. (Although Guinness still lists Severinsen as the record holder, stating he hyperventilated with oxygen before his attempt for 19 minutes and 30 seconds.)"

"three minutes" :roll:

You and D.H> DO make a lovely couple, though.
Even if you hyperventilated on oxygen and were capable of holding your breath the same length as the world record holder your AHI would only be 0.36.

Do us a favour and hold your breath for 3 minutes if you believe I am wrong...
Someone with half the intelligence you THINK you have would realize that 3 minutes isn't even a minimum time for brain death to start after the brain is deprived of oxygen, and you can go longer than that without breathing due to the residual oxygen in your blood stream,, before death occurs.

In other words, three is no 'magic number'.

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Re: Max possible AHI is 360!

Post by chunkyfrog » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:02 pm

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