Just want to upgrade!

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Leaston
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Just want to upgrade!

Post by Leaston » Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:20 pm

Hi, I am new to the forum but I have been using CPAP for 15+ years and it changed my life. I’m still using my original machine (REMstar M-series) but it is getting noisy and I want to upgrade. I attempted a home sleep study but I simply cannot sleep without CPAP so I got no results. I’m attempting to find my original sleep study but that may be a challenge.

My wife was diagnosed with mild OSA in 2011 but could never get used to wearing a mask (she refuses to give it enough time IMO, but that’s another story.). Her machine is a ResMed Elite S9 (now in my profile) and I would like to give that a try. I contacted a DME service company but they will not adjust the machine without SS results and a script.

I found the ResMed Clinical manual online. I no longer need ramp setting to fall asleep so that’s not an issue. I have read the posts about Sleepyhead and OSCAR and I will go “geeky” after I sort out the basics.

So, I have 2 initial questions:

1. Is there any alternative to a sleep study for long-standing CPAP users?
2. Do I need any other “how to” info (beyond the clinical manual) on adjusting clinical settings?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Just want to upgrade!

Post by palerider » Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:04 pm

Leaston wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:20 pm
1. Is there any alternative to a sleep study for long-standing CPAP users?
2. Do I need any other “how to” info (beyond the clinical manual) on adjusting clinical settings?
1) the data from the machine itself
2) if you mean "how to do it", no. If you mean "what should I set it to", start with your old settings, then post a chart.

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Re: Just want to upgrade!

Post by LSAT » Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:06 pm

The alternative to sleep study would be an Autoset machine and Oscar Software.
Here is the "how to" Clinical Manual for the S9.. http://osahelp.com/clinician-manuals/S9 ... al-eng.pdf

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Re: Just want to upgrade!

Post by palerider » Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:47 pm

An autoset makes it easier, but one can get an elite set up tight, it's just harder to do.

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Re: Just want to upgrade!

Post by Jas_williams » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:14 pm

This Is a great machine for sale by LSAT Is a BiLevel LSAT May have other machines availiable PM him


viewtopic/t177795/For-SaleAirCurve-10-VAUTO.html

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Re: Just want to upgrade!

Post by Wulfman... » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:18 pm

Leaston wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:20 pm
Hi, I am new to the forum but I have been using CPAP for 15+ years and it changed my life. I’m still using my original machine (REMstar M-series) but it is getting noisy and I want to upgrade. I attempted a home sleep study but I simply cannot sleep without CPAP so I got no results. I’m attempting to find my original sleep study but that may be a challenge.

My wife was diagnosed with mild OSA in 2011 but could never get used to wearing a mask (she refuses to give it enough time IMO, but that’s another story.). Her machine is a ResMed Elite S9 (now in my profile) and I would like to give that a try. I contacted a DME service company but they will not adjust the machine without SS results and a script.

I found the ResMed Clinical manual online. I no longer need ramp setting to fall asleep so that’s not an issue. I have read the posts about Sleepyhead and OSCAR and I will go “geeky” after I sort out the basics.

So, I have 2 initial questions:

1. Is there any alternative to a sleep study for long-standing CPAP users?
2. Do I need any other “how to” info (beyond the clinical manual) on adjusting clinical settings?

Thanks in advance!
For the record.......... The Respironics REMstar M Series didn't hit the market until 2006........that's 13 years ago.

With a data-capable machine (like the Resmed S9 Elite) it would be like getting a sleep study every night.
Even with a straight-pressure machine, you can find the correct pressure in a relatively short period of time.
Just start with the pressure you've been using in your old M-Series machine and monitor your results. If you need to tweak your pressure, give each setting a few nights (or a week) to see how well it works.


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Re: Just want to upgrade!

Post by Fetou » Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:41 pm

Just buy an autoset machine from a forum user here and then utilize the resourceful people here by providing properly formatted sleep data from the SD Card. I never had a sleep study or a prescription and have been successfully self-treating for over a year now.

I still have a few autosets laying around if you are interested in something on the cheaper side. I believe I have a higher hours S9 Autoset that that I would part with for $120 + shipping. Or you could spring for an even better machine like the AirCurve 10 VAuto that LSAT has listed on here.

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Re: Just want to upgrade!

Post by Leaston » Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:45 am

Wulfman... wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:18 pm
Leaston wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:20 pm
Hi, I am new to the forum but I have been using CPAP for 15+ years and it changed my life. I’m still using my original machine (REMstar M-series) but it is getting noisy and I want to upgrade. I attempted a home sleep study but I simply cannot sleep without CPAP so I got no results. I’m attempting to find my original sleep study but that may be a challenge.

My wife was diagnosed with mild OSA in 2011 but could never get used to wearing a mask (she refuses to give it enough time IMO, but that’s another story.). Her machine is a ResMed Elite S9 (now in my profile) and I would like to give that a try. I contacted a DME service company but they will not adjust the machine without SS results and a script.

I found the ResMed Clinical manual online. I no longer need ramp setting to fall asleep so that’s not an issue. I have read the posts about Sleepyhead and OSCAR and I will go “geeky” after I sort out the basics.

So, I have 2 initial questions:

1. Is there any alternative to a sleep study for long-standing CPAP users?
2. Do I need any other “how to” info (beyond the clinical manual) on adjusting clinical settings?

Thanks in advance!
For the record.......... The Respironics REMstar M Series didn't hit the market until 2006........that's 13 years ago.

With a data-capable machine (like the Resmed S9 Elite) it would be like getting a sleep study every night.
Even with a straight-pressure machine, you can find the correct pressure in a relatively short period of time.
Just start with the pressure you've been using in your old M-Series machine and monitor your results. If you need to tweak your pressure, give each setting a few nights (or a week) to see how well it works.


Den

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Thanks everyone and thanks Den for correcting my recollection. I found the ResMed clinical manual online shortly after posting my questions and used it to set my pressure to 10 cm. I have OSCAR set up on my PC but I have yet to import the data from the SD card. Maybe today.

So far it seems to be doing the job as well as my REMstar and it is much quieter. I picked up the DC-DC voltage converter on Amazon for battery backup. I sent SoClean an email about the ResMed adapter and they are sending me one for free!

Sooo, I’m a happy camper and my wife no longer complains about the noise. Good to know that there is private market for machines since the “approved” process is such a hassle.

Thanks again. I will post charts if I need further assistance.

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Re: Just want to upgrade!

Post by Leaston » Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:27 pm

palerider wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:04 pm
Leaston wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:20 pm
1. Is there any alternative to a sleep study for long-standing CPAP users?
2. Do I need any other “how to” info (beyond the clinical manual) on adjusting clinical settings?
1) the data from the machine itself
2) if you mean "how to do it", no. If you mean "what should I set it to", start with your old settings, then post a chart.
Palerider,

I am new to this data but looking at these stats and some basic info from the web, my AHI over the last 3 days looks pretty good to me. A few major leaks but overall it seems like everything is working pretty well. Highest AHI was 1.52, lowest was 0.72 with a downward trend over 3 days. If you think I should be doing better, I can send the daily detail graphs but I thought this was good for a quick look. BTW, my initial SS showed AHI >60.

Thanks for the help!

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Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control
Additional Comments: Machine is an S9 Elite (not AutoSet). Elite was not an available choice on the list.
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Re: Just want to upgrade!

Post by Pugsy » Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:38 pm

If you are feeling good and sleeping good then I see no reason to go messing around with anything.
Numbers look pretty darn good to me.

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Re: Just want to upgrade!

Post by palerider » Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:41 pm

Leaston wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:27 pm
palerider wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:04 pm
Leaston wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:20 pm
1. Is there any alternative to a sleep study for long-standing CPAP users?
2. Do I need any other “how to” info (beyond the clinical manual) on adjusting clinical settings?
1) the data from the machine itself
2) if you mean "how to do it", no. If you mean "what should I set it to", start with your old settings, then post a chart.
Palerider,

I am new to this data but looking at these stats and some basic info from the web, my AHI over the last 3 days looks pretty good to me. A few major leaks but overall it seems like everything is working pretty well. Highest AHI was 1.52, lowest was 0.72 with a downward trend over 3 days. If you think I should be doing better, I can send the daily detail graphs but I thought this was good for a quick look. BTW, my initial SS showed AHI >60.

Thanks for the help!
An AHI of under 1.5 is good.
If you post graphs, arrange them like shown here: wiki/index.php/Sleepyhead:Organize

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Re: Just want to upgrade!

Post by Leaston » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:05 pm

Thanks all! I’ll look again when I have more data and if anything looks odd, I’ll post charts.

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Re: Just want to upgrade!

Post by Leaston » Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:55 pm

So new reason for wanting an upgrade. I loaned my backup machine (REMstar M series) to my brother-in-law because his DS was recalled. Been using the ResMed S9 (originally my wife’s) for 30 months. All is good with that. However, if I wanted to get a new machine, is there any way to do that without a prescription? As noted above, my home sleep study was deemed invalid because I did not sleep and my original prescription is no longer on file (too old.) I’m reluctant to go for another SS because I expect the same result. Looking for ideas. Are private sales still a thing?

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Re: Just want to upgrade!

Post by Miss Emerita » Fri Aug 27, 2021 6:12 pm

Try sending a private message to forum member LSAT to see what he might be able to provide you with. A ResMed Airsense 10 Autoset would be ideal, but you could also use a (more expensive) ResMed Aircurve VAuto.
Oscar software is available at https://www.sleepfiles.com/OSCAR/

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Re: Just want to upgrade!

Post by zonker » Fri Aug 27, 2021 6:15 pm

Leaston wrote:
Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:55 pm
Are private sales still a thing?
yup.

and i second miss e's recommendation.
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