Cpap for snoring....not apnea

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Cpap for snoring....not apnea

Post by keroseneburner » Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:04 am

Someone I know has a snoring problem....no cessation of breathing just very loud (ie can hear through multiple walls even with ear plugs in) can an auto machine be used successfully to help? I have a spare auto....it might also record if there are other issues such as apnea or hypopnea..... Individual complains of fatigue, etc. No way is this this person doing a sleep study, it just isn’t happening so I thought I might offer some help. You guys here are awesome, with your help my ahi is .3-.5 now, I lost all the weight (still have apnea :( ) it is what it is.
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Re: Cpap for snoring....not apnea

Post by Dog Slobber » Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:28 am

Snoring is one of the symptoms of apnea and one of the triggers that increases pressure during therapy.

Almost always CPAP therapy stops snoring.

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Re: Cpap for snoring....not apnea

Post by jnk... » Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:57 am

keroseneburner wrote:
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can an auto machine be used successfully to help
Yes.

Insurance won't pay for it, but it is a perfectly valid use of the equipment.

Snoring itself is known to cause serious health problems, especially if others in the room are lying awake all night contemplating which methods gleaned from recent episodes of Forensic Files would come in most handy in solving the noise issues permanently.
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Re: Cpap for snoring....not apnea

Post by Patriot Partner » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:26 am

I've helped at least 5 men with snoring problems get on cpap

None had insurance

All were married

All the spouses were annoyed by the snoring

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Re: Cpap for snoring....not apnea

Post by ChicagoGranny » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:54 am

keroseneburner wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:04 am
Someone I know has a snoring problem
You may already know that over time snoring progresses to sleep apnea. The vibrations from snoring cause lesions on the hypoglossal nerve. This nerve transmits signals that maintain an open airway while sleeping. The lesions interfere with the signals.

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Post by Janknitz » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:07 pm

Just because you think there's no apnea does not mean there's no apnea. Only a sleep test will tell. And insurance will pay for testing in most cases.

Some people are treated with CPAP for UARS (Upper Airway Resistance Syndrome) which can cause snoring in the absence of actual apnea. Whether insurance will cover that depends on the insurance contract (your friend should request an "Evidence of Coverage) EOC document which will outline whether or not the insurance will cover CPAP for UARS).

Even without insurance, CPAP machines are obtainable and usable, but it's worth exploring what exactly is the problem before going that route.
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Post by gv280z » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:42 pm

Yep, stopped my snoring, loving it. Also depends on what type of snorer, nasal or mouth, I'm a mouth breather so I snored through my mouth, my wife snores through her nose but it's cute and not abrasive or excessively loud, only soft little adorable snores haha....myself though, I could vibrate the walls, holy cow.......
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Post by chunkyfrog » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:02 pm

".... Individual complains of fatigue, etc. No way, etc. . . . "
SLEEP STUDY, dammit!
His health and longevity is enough of an issue to do that ASAP.
A home sleep study can be way more affordable, if a bit less comprehensive
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Re: Cpap for snoring....not apnea

Post by ChicagoGranny » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:45 pm

gv280z wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:42 pm
my wife snores through her nose but it's cute and not abrasive or excessively loud, only soft little adorable snores haha
It won't be so cute and adorable when it has damaged her hypoglossal nerve to the point she has sleep apnea the rest of her life.

Snoring should cease to be the punchline of jokes and comic pages. It's a sign of something dangerous.

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Post by jimbud » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:59 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:45 pm
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my wife snores through her nose but it's cute and not abrasive or excessively loud, only soft little adorable snores haha
It won't be so cute and adorable when it has damaged her hypoglossal nerve to the point she has sleep apnea the rest of her life.

Snoring should cease to be the punchline of jokes and comic pages. It's a sign of something dangerous.
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Post by jnk... » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:08 pm

Mayo Dudes wrote:"Nearly everyone snores now and then . . . Sometimes it may also indicate a serious health condition. In addition, snoring can be a nuisance to your partner. . . . Medical devices and surgery are available that may reduce disruptive snoring. However, these aren't suitable or necessary for everyone who snores. . . . Not all snorers have OSA, but if snoring is accompanied by any of the following symptoms, it may be an indication to see a doctor for further evaluation for OSA: [See link for list]"-- https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con ... c-20377694
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Post by palerider » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:50 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:45 pm
gv280z wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:42 pm
my wife snores through her nose but it's cute and not abrasive or excessively loud, only soft little adorable snores haha
It won't be so cute and adorable when it has damaged her hypoglossal nerve to the point she has sleep apnea the rest of her life.

Snoring should cease to be the punchline of jokes and comic pages. It's a sign of something dangerous.
This is so so very true.

Snoring is no more "cute" than a baby rattlesnake.

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Post by jnk... » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:12 pm

Columbia Dudes wrote:Snoring doesn’t necessarily mean that you have a medical condition, but it can sometimes be a sign of a serious sleep disorder, including sleep apnea. . . . Snoring is common—as many as 45 percent of people snore sometimes, and 25 percent snore almost all the time. . . . Snoring by itself—when it's not a symptom of a medical problem like sleep apnea—may not pose any physical risk. But it can cause problems when sleeping in a room with your spouse or partner. Snoring can affect your partner's sleep and trigger a number of problems caused by sleep deficiency.--http://www.columbianeurology.org/neurol ... p?id=42066
A review of a review of reviews wrote:December 2014 Sleep Medicine Reviews, has two articles with complementary reviews of adult and pediatric snoring. Both studies acknowledge that snoring is often a marker of obstructive sleep apnea, but they also highlight the greater frequency of this symptom and its potential independent clinical importance. The most important issue raised by both reviews is the persisting question about the significance of snoring in the absence of frank obstructive sleep apnea. Both reviews allude to the assumption that snoring is the mildest form of the obstruction we loosely call “sleep disordered breathing” but both come to the conclusion that there is reason to consider that snoring may be more than just mild obstructive sleep apnea: continuous snoring is at least associated with and perhaps defines a pathophysiologic entity that is not easily related to the repetitive and well circumscribed respiratory events marked by hypoxia and/or arousals and that define obstructive sleep apnea.--https://sleepspecialist.co.uk/news/snor ... p-medicine
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Re: Cpap for snoring....not apnea

Post by jimbud » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:19 pm

jnk... wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:12 pm
But it can cause problems when sleeping in a room with your spouse or partner. Snoring can affect your partner's sleep and trigger a number of problems caused by sleep deficiency.--http://www.columbianeurology.org/neurol ... p?id=42066
Kind of like John Wesley Harden's encounter with the snoring man? :wink:
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Post by jnk... » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:33 pm

But as Gran and PR have indicated:
Study shows a potential relationship between snoring and bilateral carotid artery stenosis greater than 50%; snorers have risk of carotid stenosis twice that of nonsnorers. Further investigation is warranted to better elucidate this relationship.--Laryngoscope, 129:265–268, 2019--https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/ful ... lary.27314
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