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OT Not totally!

Post by Goofproof » Thu May 23, 2019 3:32 pm

Food for thought!

10 signs your body needs more magnesium. https://youtu.be/n0ufYKUTUXk

3 Signs your Body is low on Magnesium
https://youtu.be/erHr4R_8KEk

How to reduce stress with Magnesium
https://youtu.be/jkK37RGlq0c

This may effect a lot of us.

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Re: OT Not totally!

Post by HoseCrusher » Thu May 23, 2019 4:13 pm

The first video kept suggesting that you consult with your doctor. The first question to ask your doctor is how they suggest measuring your magnesium levels. If a serum test is suggest, find a new doctor.

The second video pointed out that the RBC magnesium levels was far more indicative of where you are.

A good place to start if you are worried about magnesium levels is by having a healthy spinach salad a day.

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Post by Goofproof » Thu May 23, 2019 4:37 pm

HoseCrusher wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 4:13 pm
The first video kept suggesting that you consult with your doctor. The first question to ask your doctor is how they suggest measuring your magnesium levels. If a serum test is suggest, find a new doctor.

The second video pointed out that the RBC magnesium levels was far more indicative of where you are.

A good place to start if you are worried about magnesium levels is by having a healthy spinach salad a day.
I have never had or seen anyone eat a spinach salad, I'm a Popeye kind of Guy, Apple Cider vinegar. In limited use, don't want to turn green. If you had watched the WHOLE video, you would have seen the facts, a doctor isn't required as most of the U.S. population is very low, and our diet isn't grown healthy enough to correct the problem, unless we are sheep or cows, and it does affect our sleep and how we feel.

I have been getting leg cramps, (Something new for me) A Magnesium tab stops it from happening, however at 5mg per pound of body weight, my tab is way too low to make a dent, I am going to up me game as inflamation is tearing me up. It's nice to not have the cramps, but I need to try to find relief at the next level, at 5mg per pound of body weight, I have a lot of wiggle room. Now if I could just wiggle. :roll: Jim
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Re: OT Not totally!

Post by HoseCrusher » Thu May 23, 2019 4:47 pm

Have a spinach salad... You may find that you wiggle wonderfully.

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Re: OT Not totally!

Post by Goofproof » Thu May 23, 2019 4:55 pm

HoseCrusher wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 4:47 pm
Have a spinach salad... You may find that you wiggle wonderfully.
I thought the DDT in Mexico was supposed to stop them from wiggling. :lol: Jim
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Re: OT Not totally!

Post by palerider » Thu May 23, 2019 7:00 pm

Goofproof wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 4:37 pm
I have been getting leg cramps, (Something new for me) A Magnesium tab stops it from happening, however at 5mg per pound of body weight, my tab is way too low to make a dent, I am going to up me game as inflamation is tearing me up. It's nice to not have the cramps, but I need to try to find relief at the next level, at 5mg per pound of body weight, I have a lot of wiggle room. Now if I could just wiggle. :roll: Jim
Magnesium is a complicated thing, in it's raw form, your body can't absorb magnesium... it has to be in a compound with other things, and some of them are more absorbable than others.

Magnesium oxide, the cheapest kind, has a very low bioavailability, meaning that about 97% of it just has a laxitive effect. milk of magnesia is primarily liquid magnesium oxide.

So, you want to spend a little more and buy magnesium that your body can more readily absorb. The recommendation is about 400mg per day.

I've been taking magnesium glycinate, before bed. that's a compound that has high bioavailability plus the glycinate has been said to help with sleep... so it's like a double shot.

shop around, I get two packs of 180 count bottles, 200mg per pill, so one bottle is a 90 day supply.

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Post by HoseCrusher » Thu May 23, 2019 7:39 pm

Let's see now...

Magnesium Glycinate has roughly 14 mg of elemental magnesium per 100 mg. Taking 400 mg will provide your body with about 56 mg of magnesium.

Spinach has around 79 mg of magnesium per cup.

I'll "see" your magnesium glycinate and "raise" you a spinach salad. I will most likely end up with greater bioavailability and the co-factors from spinach will most likely be more beneficial to the body.

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Re: OT Not totally!

Post by Goofproof » Thu May 23, 2019 8:48 pm

HoseCrusher wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 7:39 pm
Let's see now...

Magnesium Glycinate has roughly 14 mg of elemental magnesium per 100 mg. Taking 400 mg will provide your body with about 56 mg of magnesium.

Spinach has around 79 mg of magnesium per cup.

I'll "see" your magnesium glycinate and "raise" you a spinach salad. I will most likely end up with greater bioavailability and the co-factors from spinach will most likely be more beneficial to the body.
If you eat the can, will I still need the Iron Pill? Jim
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Re: OT Not totally!

Post by palerider » Thu May 23, 2019 9:30 pm

HoseCrusher wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 7:39 pm
Let's see now...

Magnesium Glycinate has roughly 14 mg of elemental magnesium per 100 mg. Taking 400 mg will provide your body with about 56 mg of magnesium.

Spinach has around 79 mg of magnesium per cup.

I'll "see" your magnesium glycinate and "raise" you a spinach salad. I will most likely end up with greater bioavailability and the co-factors from spinach will most likely be more beneficial to the body.
Well, I don't know where you're getting your numbers from, but magnesium glycinate has about 80% bioavailability. whereas Raw spinach has about 80.2% absorption, boiled 88.4 and fried 90.4.

The oxalic acid in raw spinach interferes with absorption.

Add to that the fact that the amount of magnesium that is in spinach in the first place depends *highly* on the ground that it's grown in, and much of the spinach you may be putting in that salad is potentially factory farmed from depleted land...

And I'd say that your spinach poker hand is likely to leave you busted.

However, I don't expect you to change your preconceived notions.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8926539
https://www.ancient-minerals.com/transd ... m/dietary/

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Post by HoseCrusher » Fri May 24, 2019 5:22 pm

Perhaps you forgot you are taking magnesium attached to glycine. The combination gives you 14 mg magnesium + 86 mg glycine per 100 mg.

If your label says that it is providing 200 mg magnesium from magnesium glycinate you are only getting 28 mg of magnesium.

On the other hand if your label says it is getting 200 mg magnesium from about 1500 mg magnesium glycinate then you are getting the full 200 mg of magnesium.

What does your label indicate?

My numbers are a little over 5 years old. I got them by collecting several samples and dropping them off at the biochemical lab for analysis. The spinach is grown in mineral rich soil that is free from contamination.

I might ask... How pure are the chemicals in your pills?

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Re: OT Not totally!

Post by Grace~~~ » Fri May 24, 2019 7:07 pm

~~~ mmmmmmmm

I am craving spinach salad now.

I'd like to have a different wonderful spinach salad based meal every day next week.
(wish I could afford to hire a chef ... can't seduce them anymore and never learned to cook for myself)

Would love to see what other people's idea of the PERFECT spinach salad looks like :)

~~~ or a recipe?

Maybe that would motivate me to make one (or look for a good restaurant)
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Re: OT Not totally!

Post by palerider » Fri May 24, 2019 7:37 pm

HoseCrusher wrote:
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Perhaps you forgot
I DID forget something important... the futility of replying to your posts :)

Thanks for the reminder. ;)

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Post by Dan_McD » Fri May 24, 2019 7:49 pm

I had restless legs, and muscle cramps for years. Plus irregularity. I have been taking 4 250mg tablets (1000mg) of magnesium citrate for about 10 years. Pretty much cured the above problems. May not be for everybody....... I also eat spinach.
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Might be worth a read, particularly about bio-availability.
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https://naturalcalm.ca/magnesium-carbon ... ifference/

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Post by JayDee » Sat May 25, 2019 5:10 am

Raw spinach is as compelling as raw kale. However, the wife likes it, so it's part of the mixed greens in our salads. But cooked spinach ranks with collards or turnips - different taste, but still delicious (imho). Especially with some datil pepper juice, or pepperoncini juice *and* some malt-vinegar.

Matter of fact, if you have someone who doesn't like greens, try some pepperoncini juice and malt-vinegar on them. Made a believer out of me and I used to gag when offered greens.

If it weren't for cooked spinach. I'd never have any reason to go to Long John's Silvers - love their malt vinegar; hate their food.

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Post by Muse-Inc » Sun May 26, 2019 2:02 am

Grace~~~ post_id[list wrote:[/list]=1307311 time=1558746468 user_id=79342]
Would love to see what other people's idea of the PERFECT spinach salad looks like :)
~~~ or a recipe?
Layers in a bowl or on a plate starting from the bottom:
Salad 1:
  • Ripped fresh spinach leaves
  • Shredded cooked chicken
  • Sliced celery
  • Halved grape tomatoes
  • Halved black olives
  • Sliced green onion tops (the green part)
  • Handful of almond slices
Dressing of choice. Or, equal amounts of pomegranate vinegar and olive oil (or an MCT oil that is only C8 or C8 & C10 for the ketones, I like KIss MY Keto MCT oil) with fresh ground salt and fresh ground pepper. I sometimes just use lemon juice and the MCT oil).
Salad 2:
  • Ripped fresh spinach leaves
  • Sliced fresh mushrooms
  • Sliced hard-boiled eggs
  • Thinly sliced radishes
  • Thinly sliced red onions
  • Crumbled Feta cheese
Dressing: equal parts orange or tangerine juice with olive oil or the MCT oil, add a teaspoon of DiJon mustard, salt and pepper. Mix well, the mustard helps the oil and juice mix.
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