autosacan problem

carlossm · Post by **carlossm** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:47 pm

For some reason last night's data does not show up on autoscan.

Here is screen shot of the days. Today is monday and sunday night doesn't show up. The card was read correctly and dowloaded with no errors

Thanks
Carlos San Miguel

dsm · Post by **dsm** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:56 pm

Carlos,

I am guessing here, but wonder if you might have downloaded the data ok but then not saved the file before exiting AutoScan ?

DSM

pedroski · Post by **pedroski** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:52 pm

Hi Carlos,

Check that the download setting is NOT to overwrite, or you will only be able to keep 5 nights of detailed data for your night profiles. Make sure you have your file open before you download the new data. This procedure should sort you out:

1 in the MORNING (before midday), copy the data onto the card from the flow generator
2 open your current AutoScan file
3 click the "Download/ResScan data card" menu in AutoScan
4 save the file after the new data has been downloaded.

If you did this in the afternoon, that might be why you lost a day of data. At midday each day the flow generator throws out the oldest detailed data session, in order to make room for the next session, which starts at midday. If you copy the data into the AutoScan file after midday, there will be a blank day for the current day (assuming you have not used the CPAP during the afternoon). Then this day will not be over-written when you next copy data into the AutoScan file, so you will be left with a blank data session.

You can see from this example I missed a day by mucking this up.

Good luck

Peter

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dsm · Post by **dsm** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:01 pm

Peter,

You can help clarify the difference between how the S7 & Vpaps work versus the S8 datacard downloads (I have never tried that).

On the S7 & Vpaps if I use serial cable the machine will hold 7 days of detailed data & providing I download each 6 days I get all the data.

I am reading into your post that you have to download the card data daily ?

I thought that if you left the data card in the machine it would accumulate 5 days detailed data before the machine loses a day.

Do you have to download your data via datacard every day before noon ?

Doug

pedroski · Post by **pedroski** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:23 pm

I thought that if you left the data card in the machine it would accumulate 5 days detailed data before the machine loses a day.

Do you have to download your data via datacard every day before noon ?

Thanks for clarifying that Doug. You're right. That wasn't written very clearly. You can download 5 days worth of data, I'm still keen so I'm still doing it each morning, but I guess as I get more used to it, I won't. I was travelling the other week and downloaded three days, but did it in the afternoon, so lost the days data from my main file. I saved it as a different file, but the only way to get that data in my main patient file was to overwrite it in which case I would lose all the detailed data except the last 5 days.

Peter

PS I had some fun wasting spam posts last night too! They're persistent.

Slinky · Post by **Slinky** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:28 pm

Yup, Carlos. I did that one day myself. The day I had an appointment w/my pulmo and was to take the data card in for them to read. I "think" that Peter (pedroski) is most likely correct. If we don't download before noon that individual night's data goes into the averages.

In my case, fortunately, I did check and record the onscreen Efficacy Data and Usage data in a separate file in another program. My appointment at the sleep lab was in the afternoon so I didn't download until after noon. And that day's data shows blank. And it is also listed as a non-compliant day. Grrrrrr.

One thing that DOES have me puzzled besides this is when occasionally the "bar" on the Usage Profile isn't filled in. I've had that happen six different times over 86 days of recording. And there is no obvious rhyme or reason for it. Two of the days it was one solid sleeping session, the other four days were split w/2, 3, or even 4 sleeping sessions. On the split sleeping sessions the first session(s) were filled in, the last session wasn't. This happened ONLY on nights where I downloaded data the next day. It didn't happen ANY of the days before I acquired downloading capabilities.

I did find out today tho. I can download from the Elite to the card and from the card to AutoScan in the morning as usual. Then in the afternoon take the card in to the sleep lab and they can download that same information. It wasn't erased after my download. I was worried that it was. I must make it clear I did NOT re-insert the card and download from machine to card a second time that day. Just the one download machine to card to AutoScan at home and then the sleep lab downloaded from card to AutoScan at the lab.

I think DSM might have a good point too. Maybe, we DIDN'T save the file after downloading to AutoScan before exiting AutoScan. That sounds pretty logical.

pedroski · Post by **pedroski** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:43 pm

Hi Slinky,

A couple of suggestions for why

the "bar" on the Usage Profile isn't filled in

1. 5 or more mask on/mask off events in the 24hr period.
2. Downloading the data from the flow generator inside 10 minutes of turning it off.

Peter

Slinky · Post by **Slinky** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:50 pm

Hmmmm. You just may be right, Pedroski. I "usually" am up before hubby so don't do the download until he's up and I go in to make the bed.

But, those days w/the last sleep session not filled in just may be days when he got up before me and I downloaded w/in 10 minutes of getting up. I'll have to keep track of that next time he beats me outta bed in the morning. I'm usually last to bed and first to rise.

And, I'll have to keep track of the mask on/mask off episodes too and see if that might be it but somehow I have a sneaky suspicion it quite likely could be the former.

I so appreciate being able to discuss Resmed issues w/you Resmed people! Sometimes I get jealous of all the Respironics issues and "fixes" and the additional MyEncore and EncoreAnalyzer abilities.

I sure wouldn't mind seeing our Resmed 'puter geniuses bringing us up to snuff w/the Respironics gang. Hint, hint, hint!

pedroski · Post by **pedroski** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:55 pm

If it turns out to be the inside 10 minutes thing, and you notice it in Autoscan before noon, you can just go back and re download after ten minutes and the filled in bar should then be there.

Slinky · Post by **Slinky** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:58 pm

Yup, yup, will do. Thanks for that thought!