I'm really curious about this. I've played wind instruments since 6th grade, and I know there are many other factors, but for me, breathing out against the pressure was no big deal at all.
Have those of you who play wind instruments had similar experiences, or am I the only one that wouldn't be surprised if there were a connection?
Does playing a wind instrument make CPAP adjustment easier?
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I've never heard of any correlation between playing a wind instrument and CPAP compliance, but I've been playing fife and then concert flute since the 4th grade, and had no significant problem in starting and continuing with CPAP treatment.blarg wrote:Have those of you who play wind instruments had similar experiences, or am I the only one that wouldn't be surprised if there were a connection?
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Interesting question
i played clarinet for about 20 years .. and native american flute
some times now and have not had any problems adjusting to
xpap that way ...
i do have some thoughts sometime about this is for the
rest of my life
but that is a different topic
wolf
some times now and have not had any problems adjusting to
xpap that way ...
i do have some thoughts sometime about this is for the
rest of my life
but that is a different topic
wolf
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I too have played wind instruments since fifth grade and did not have any trouble getting used to breathing with the pressure.
Although, I must say that the breathing apparatus I used back when I was a Firefighter was much more like an xPAP mask and pressure, especially a FF mask like I use.
Although, I must say that the breathing apparatus I used back when I was a Firefighter was much more like an xPAP mask and pressure, especially a FF mask like I use.
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I play a string instrument so obviously no connection there ... but if there is a connection between wind instruments and ease of adjusting to PAP treatment, I would think that those who can play a wind instrument through their nose would do even better.
There is some guy (out of California?) who visits this site to spam his didge wares periodically here on the forum. He usually posts links to a study that supports using the didge helps to mitigate if not eliminate OSA altogether.
Interesting question nonetheless.
There is some guy (out of California?) who visits this site to spam his didge wares periodically here on the forum. He usually posts links to a study that supports using the didge helps to mitigate if not eliminate OSA altogether.
Interesting question nonetheless.
President-pretender, J. Biden, said "the DNC has built the largest voter fraud organization in US history". Too bad they didn’t build the smartest voter fraud organization and got caught.
I'll chime in
As my avatar and name imply, I have some nodding familiarity with a trombone (and you thought it was my love for steak--well, it's that, too). I haven't played it in ages, but the "breathing from the diaphragm" thing stays with me to this day.
I've periodically checked my lung capacity as a matter of curiosity since I was 18 or 19, and always found myself to have six liters or so on that scale. Some say this means I'm full of hot air...
I've ridden bicycles all my life as well. Over the last five or ten years, my cycling performance has improved, mostly as a function of riding with not just the goal of enjoying it, but with getting faster as a goal. This takes lots of wind power, especially as I'm a good-sized guy (6'0", 225#)
When I started on what Mom (Catnapper) calls "the Road To REM" a couple months ago, I decided I would have a fairly easy time of adjusting to the mask/breathing against pressure thing for all the reasons I've listed.
I don't know how much of my ease of transition into CPAP was attitude, how much was the reality of my overall strong lung condition, and how much was that I'd been reading this forum for a few weeks before starting therapy. Sure, I have glitches some nights, but I seem to have fewer than many people whose posts I read here.
I would also agree with WifeIsHappyNow, that experience such as fire fighting or SCUBA diving would also ease the acclimitization to CPAP. I've not done either, but have some time with dust/irritant filters due to various jobs I've held, and am thus less scared of masks on my face.
As for compliance vis-a-vis wind instrument background, I simply doubt it's been studied, Bill. Any evidence is probably anecdotal at this point.
Whatever your background, I wish all of you the best results with your sleep therapy!
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I've periodically checked my lung capacity as a matter of curiosity since I was 18 or 19, and always found myself to have six liters or so on that scale. Some say this means I'm full of hot air...
I've ridden bicycles all my life as well. Over the last five or ten years, my cycling performance has improved, mostly as a function of riding with not just the goal of enjoying it, but with getting faster as a goal. This takes lots of wind power, especially as I'm a good-sized guy (6'0", 225#)
When I started on what Mom (Catnapper) calls "the Road To REM" a couple months ago, I decided I would have a fairly easy time of adjusting to the mask/breathing against pressure thing for all the reasons I've listed.
I don't know how much of my ease of transition into CPAP was attitude, how much was the reality of my overall strong lung condition, and how much was that I'd been reading this forum for a few weeks before starting therapy. Sure, I have glitches some nights, but I seem to have fewer than many people whose posts I read here.
I would also agree with WifeIsHappyNow, that experience such as fire fighting or SCUBA diving would also ease the acclimitization to CPAP. I've not done either, but have some time with dust/irritant filters due to various jobs I've held, and am thus less scared of masks on my face.
As for compliance vis-a-vis wind instrument background, I simply doubt it's been studied, Bill. Any evidence is probably anecdotal at this point.
Whatever your background, I wish all of you the best results with your sleep therapy!
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wind instruments
Don't we all play wind instruments now that we are 'pappers?
More that one kind from what I read here. Aerophagia can make music too!
Hi t-bone.
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More that one kind from what I read here. Aerophagia can make music too!
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Drum and Bugle Corps Nut
When I was a young lad, I played baritone horn in the championship drum and bugle corp, Santa Clara Vanguard (video].
In this link, you'll see a short clip of the Vanguard from ESPN 2, as well as a drummer being tested for 02 intake during performance. You might find it interesting how playing music might correspond to your overall health, heart rate and O2 intake.
Read with Caution: Telly is a known "Drum Corps Nut".
If you have ever seen the movie "Drum Line" then, drum and bugle corps would be the reference point (here's a real drum line). However, the movie is a total farce. High school or college marching bands cannot hold a candle to the performance level of a championship level drum corps. In fact, "bands" copy and try to emulate drum corps but cannot because of the level of musicianship and amount of rehearsal time spent is so much greater.
Also, it is only brass and drums in the instrumentation (no woodwinds) so the performance is so much louder and more impactive. You should see a drum corps show to get the full effect. I think it's really entertaining to see these young folks perform.
Drum and Bugle Corps is a competetive youth activity, corps are not "high school marching bands". You have to try out to "make it" into a corps like the Vanguard, like, you have to be the baddest horn player in your school band to have the guts to even try out.
"Drum Corps" is like a cross between music and sport. I guess you could call it "Professional Marching Band". The drills are kaleidoscopic and the musical "book" is extremely challenging. Corps are made up of young people, usually age 14-21. At age 21, you officially "age out" of the activity. There are Senior Corps and Alumni Corps for the real die hards.
The great thing for kids is that for 6 weeks in the summer, you travel around in buses and compete against other corps culminating in a National Championship. In 1979 and 80 we took 3rd and 7th respectively. Getting away from your parents and sibs was also a great test to be away from home so long for a 15-16 year old young adult.
I still follow them and root for Vanguard in the televised national championship called "DCI". I may join the Vanguard's 40th Anniversary alumni corp. I need to start now to get my horn chops back and to perform once again at the DCI Championships in Pasadena in August '07. The baritone has a similar bore and uses the same mouthpiece as a trombone, t-bone.
More info than you want to know about marching and playing horns, I guess! Yep, I am and always will be a band geek. ...
Want more?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drum_and_b ... 8modern%29
See Telly March to the beat of a different drummer in the 1979 DCI Championship in Birmingham, AL.
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I would not be surprised at all.blarg wrote:Have those of you who play wind instruments had similar experiences, or am I the only one that wouldn't be surprised if there were a connection?
In this link, you'll see a short clip of the Vanguard from ESPN 2, as well as a drummer being tested for 02 intake during performance. You might find it interesting how playing music might correspond to your overall health, heart rate and O2 intake.
Read with Caution: Telly is a known "Drum Corps Nut".
If you have ever seen the movie "Drum Line" then, drum and bugle corps would be the reference point (here's a real drum line). However, the movie is a total farce. High school or college marching bands cannot hold a candle to the performance level of a championship level drum corps. In fact, "bands" copy and try to emulate drum corps but cannot because of the level of musicianship and amount of rehearsal time spent is so much greater.
Also, it is only brass and drums in the instrumentation (no woodwinds) so the performance is so much louder and more impactive. You should see a drum corps show to get the full effect. I think it's really entertaining to see these young folks perform.
Drum and Bugle Corps is a competetive youth activity, corps are not "high school marching bands". You have to try out to "make it" into a corps like the Vanguard, like, you have to be the baddest horn player in your school band to have the guts to even try out.
"Drum Corps" is like a cross between music and sport. I guess you could call it "Professional Marching Band". The drills are kaleidoscopic and the musical "book" is extremely challenging. Corps are made up of young people, usually age 14-21. At age 21, you officially "age out" of the activity. There are Senior Corps and Alumni Corps for the real die hards.
The great thing for kids is that for 6 weeks in the summer, you travel around in buses and compete against other corps culminating in a National Championship. In 1979 and 80 we took 3rd and 7th respectively. Getting away from your parents and sibs was also a great test to be away from home so long for a 15-16 year old young adult.
I still follow them and root for Vanguard in the televised national championship called "DCI". I may join the Vanguard's 40th Anniversary alumni corp. I need to start now to get my horn chops back and to perform once again at the DCI Championships in Pasadena in August '07. The baritone has a similar bore and uses the same mouthpiece as a trombone, t-bone.
More info than you want to know about marching and playing horns, I guess! Yep, I am and always will be a band geek. ...
Want more?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drum_and_b ... 8modern%29
See Telly March to the beat of a different drummer in the 1979 DCI Championship in Birmingham, AL.
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Who Loves Ya Baby?
telly
Who Loves Ya Baby?
telly
I don't play a wind instrument but I have noticed that my lung capacity has increased significantly since starting CPAP last spring.
In my yoga class we always chant three "Oms" at the beginning of the class and I am the most long winded "Om"er of everyone.
Never used to be that way.
Maryb
P.S. Telly--my brother was in a drum and bugle corps (Madison, WI, scouts) that traveled all over the place to compete when he was in high school. I used to hang out and watch them practice. I know that its a wonderful activity for young people. The precision marching drills were something to see.
In my yoga class we always chant three "Oms" at the beginning of the class and I am the most long winded "Om"er of everyone.
Never used to be that way.
Maryb
P.S. Telly--my brother was in a drum and bugle corps (Madison, WI, scouts) that traveled all over the place to compete when he was in high school. I used to hang out and watch them practice. I know that its a wonderful activity for young people. The precision marching drills were something to see.
Maryb,
Everyone LOVES the Madison Scouts, as they represent tradition in the drum corps activity. They're famous and are always great to watch, especially the rifle line (watch 'em spin!). They've been around for decades. That's mighty impressive if he was a member. It remains as one of two all-male drum corps. Madison is well known for their showmanship and precision. The Madison Scouts were originally Explorer Scouts and are now actually "Venture" Scouts. Their uniforms still reflect that.
Mary, which year was he in the Scouts? 1973-1976? Those were the great years.
Here is a clip of their performance in 1974. Fun to watch, especially the young soloist. That kid is GREAT.
They took 2nd that year to Vanguard, but many people to this day think they should've won. They finally did win the championship in 1975 with a massive sound in their hornline.
And Maryb, keep up the Yoga. It'll keep you healthy. Telly says, "OOOOOHHHHMMMM".
The Madison Scouts? How Wonderful!Maryb wrote:Telly--my brother was in a drum and bugle corps (Madison, WI, scouts) that traveled all over the place to compete when he was in high school. I used to hang out and watch them practice. I know that its a wonderful activity for young people. The precision marching drills were something to see.
Everyone LOVES the Madison Scouts, as they represent tradition in the drum corps activity. They're famous and are always great to watch, especially the rifle line (watch 'em spin!). They've been around for decades. That's mighty impressive if he was a member. It remains as one of two all-male drum corps. Madison is well known for their showmanship and precision. The Madison Scouts were originally Explorer Scouts and are now actually "Venture" Scouts. Their uniforms still reflect that.
Mary, which year was he in the Scouts? 1973-1976? Those were the great years.
Here is a clip of their performance in 1974. Fun to watch, especially the young soloist. That kid is GREAT.
They took 2nd that year to Vanguard, but many people to this day think they should've won. They finally did win the championship in 1975 with a massive sound in their hornline.
And Maryb, keep up the Yoga. It'll keep you healthy. Telly says, "OOOOOHHHHMMMM".
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Who Loves Ya Baby?
telly
Who Loves Ya Baby?
telly
Some interesting reading on Didgeridoos, an Australian wind instrument, which may help improve sleep apnea
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 094017.htm
http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/ ... 2/7536/266
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 094017.htm
http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/ ... 2/7536/266
Telly regarding Drum & Bugle corps--
I didn't remember what years my brother was in the Madison corps and so I emailed him. He is a drum corps nut like yourself.
Here is his reply to me:
"Santa Clara is a good Corps. Madison Scouts started in 1938 and have always been good - in the top 10 in the nation. Probably now the only all male Drum and Bugle Corps. They were and are a big deal. I remember being in New York NY for the 1963 Worlds Fair competition and having young people come up and want to touch us. We were in uniform and I am not kidding - funny huh?! We were good and won a lot. I was in the Corps for five years from 1960 to 1964. Madison Scouts is one of the oldest existing corps. You remember all the practicing we did? It took up my whole summers for years. Practice during the week and travel to competitions on the weekends. And one big two week trip every year. It is now even more of a big deal with lots more travel. They go to Europe now!
Santa Clara is a first class organization too- they are good!! Brings back good memories-thanks."
Maryb
I didn't remember what years my brother was in the Madison corps and so I emailed him. He is a drum corps nut like yourself.
Here is his reply to me:
"Santa Clara is a good Corps. Madison Scouts started in 1938 and have always been good - in the top 10 in the nation. Probably now the only all male Drum and Bugle Corps. They were and are a big deal. I remember being in New York NY for the 1963 Worlds Fair competition and having young people come up and want to touch us. We were in uniform and I am not kidding - funny huh?! We were good and won a lot. I was in the Corps for five years from 1960 to 1964. Madison Scouts is one of the oldest existing corps. You remember all the practicing we did? It took up my whole summers for years. Practice during the week and travel to competitions on the weekends. And one big two week trip every year. It is now even more of a big deal with lots more travel. They go to Europe now!
Santa Clara is a first class organization too- they are good!! Brings back good memories-thanks."
Maryb
My family members are all brass players and singers and all cpap. HMMM. ..maybe playing and singing is a negative correlation? Just kidding. Anyway none of us had trouble adjusting.
My big brother, however, was an AVID Drum and Bugle Corps follower...OK - he was really a FANATIC about it going to 20 + performances each summer. I live in DeKalb, IL - so I always saw him for Midwest competition. My personal favorite - which is controversial - was the Velvet Knights. Great music - but a touch of irreverence - like me. Mike died two years ago and this discussion is really bringing back memories. Thanks for the pictures and the memories! Here's to you, Mike!!!!!
My big brother, however, was an AVID Drum and Bugle Corps follower...OK - he was really a FANATIC about it going to 20 + performances each summer. I live in DeKalb, IL - so I always saw him for Midwest competition. My personal favorite - which is controversial - was the Velvet Knights. Great music - but a touch of irreverence - like me. Mike died two years ago and this discussion is really bringing back memories. Thanks for the pictures and the memories! Here's to you, Mike!!!!!