ice ice baby

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ice ice baby

Post by mekos » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:30 pm

I did a search, and found out I shouldn't be embarrassed to ask this question, because it appears other people have had the same idea. I am in my fourth week of trying to perfect my treatment enough to get comfortable (all night).I now have a more comfortable mask, a chin strap,(until now I thought I only had trouble keeping my mouth shut when I was awake),anyway...I am still feeling as though I'm suffocating when I try to get to sleep. The air seems to warm,the heater humidifier makes it even worse. My question is...would it be harmful to put a couple of frozen distilled water icecubes in the humidifier resevoir,so as to breath cooler air initially so I can at least get to sleep? I don't want to freeze my wife out of bed by lowering the room temp either


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Post by Wulfman » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:41 pm

I presume that you're not going to use ANY heat in the humidifier (like shut it off)......? That'll work!
It's easier to just put a smaller amount of (distilled) water in a small bottle and put it in the freezer.....but don't let it completely freeze (but still pourable) and then pour that in the humidifier shortly before going to bed.
Works for me.
I usually keep a small bottle of water in the refrigerator for topping off my tank. Last night it was almost a little TOO cool.

Good luck,

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Post by Goofproof » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:58 pm

[quote="Wulfman"]I presume that you're not going to use ANY heat in the humidifier (like shut it off)......? That'll work!
It's easier to just put a smaller amount of (distilled) water in a small bottle and put it in the freezer.....but don't let it completely freeze (but still pourable) and then pour that in the humidifier shortly before going to bed.
Works for me.
I usually keep a small bottle of water in the refrigerator for topping off my tank. Last night it was almost a little TOO cool.

Good luck,

Den

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Re: ice ice baby

Post by roster » Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:30 pm

[quote="mekos"]I did a search, and found out I shouldn't be embarrassed to ask this question, ............................would it be harmful to put a couple of frozen distilled water icecubes in the humidifier resevoir,so as to breath cooler air initially so I can at least get to sleep? .................................

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Post by tomjax » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:17 pm

I suggest you review your physics before you get too excited.

The water- even if frozen- will soon come to room temp. If there is heat, it will make it quicker, if not. then you will have a passover humidifier which,with the small area will do very little.

There is only so much energy stored in the lowered temp water and then it will be the same as putting room temp water into the chamber.

You will not cool the room this way.

For a comparison, fill a glass with ice and put it in front of a fan and watch it and check the temp of the room.

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Post by Guest » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:39 pm

Sorry I was away for a while {not sleeping} ha ha. thanks for the response all of you, I am going to try the cold water method first, if that doesn't work then I'll try ice, of course no heat! I'm certain that I will get a handle on this therapy and join the masses who are getting a good nights sleep.
Thanks again,
Mekos

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Re: ice ice baby

Post by tooly125 » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:41 pm

mekos wrote:I am still feeling as though I'm suffocating when I try to get to sleep
Just a thought what pressure are you set at
If you have a low pressure that also could contribute to the suffocating feeling.
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Post by mekos » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:57 pm

my pressure is set at 10, I don't use the ramp feature, room temp around 68 F. much moisture in my mask in the A.M.


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Post by Guest » Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:25 pm

Anonymous wrote:Sorry I was away for a while {not sleeping} ha ha. thanks for the response all of you, I am going to try the cold water method first, if that doesn't work then I'll try ice, of course no heat! I'm certain that I will get a handle on this therapy and join the masses who are getting a good nights sleep.
Thanks again,
Mekos
It is soooo amazing how often a person comes and asks a question and then totally ignores any replies.
Just what about my answer did not register at all add what do you think you can determind from the cold water or ice??
Why even ask?

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Post by Guest » Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:33 pm

mekos question was "My question is...would it be harmful to put a couple of frozen distilled water icecubes in the humidifier resevoir,so as to breath cooler air initially so I can at least get to sleep?"

Seems like he got some good answers and some other answers and is satisfied that he knows what to experiment with next.


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Re: ice

Post by Jere » Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:25 pm

Guest wrote:Why even ask?
This is why we are here. Simply to ask.
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Post by Vader » Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:45 pm

Jere wrote:
This is why we are here. Simply to ask.
I'll second that....

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Post by krousseau » Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:03 pm

Tom-I went there at first too but on second reading I think the room temp comment was that he did not want to turn the thermostat down to cool the whole room-not that he thought the ice in the humidifier would cool the whole room.

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Post by CollegeGirl » Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:09 pm

Hi mekos
Something else no one said - some people don't need to use the humidifier. I can't tolerate it, ESPECIALLY not heated. I too feel suffocated. So I just don't use it. You could try not using the humidifier at all. If you have any bad side effects (congestion, etc) as a result, you can always go back to using it.

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Post by mekos » Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:04 pm

I apologize if it seemed as though I ignored anyone, there may have been posts after I logged off, I tried the Ice cubes last night and I noticed a slight cooling of the air, I did seem to fall asleep better than with just plain water in the humidifier. as with any "experiment" one must see if the results can be duplicated. If time allows I will post tomorow.
Thanks'
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