autoscan 5.7

halb · Post by **halb** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:19 am

In looking at my night profile how do I read the hyponeas? - Apneas show as red lines - I see little mountains of blue lines - but how do I read it? If it says I had 4.3 hypo per hour and I see these blue mountains how do i know when the hypo's occurred. I am using autoscan 5.7 with a resmed s8 auto vantage

Daffney_Gillfin · Post by **Daffney_Gillfin** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:41 am

halb wrote:In looking at my night profile how do I read the hyponeas? - Apneas show as red lines - I see little mountains of blue lines - but how do I read it? If it says I had 4.3 hypo per hour and I see these blue mountains how do i know when the hypo's occurred. I am using autoscan 5.7 with a resmed s8 auto vantage.

Each time a hypopnea occurs, the blue line will jump up a notch. The mountain starts over at the beginning of each hour. If you want the exact time the hypopnea occured, it's probably best to export the data.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 1:21 pm

now you see why that software is pretty much worthless.

dsm · Post by **dsm** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:35 pm

Worthless ?.

The data is there, I think it just needs to be understood.

A hypop in AutoScan will show as the start of a blue line ( 'mountain'). The higher the line goes the greater the hypopnea index at that point, the further to the right the line goes, the longer the HIs are lasting.

Apneas show as vertical red lines - the hight of the line indicates its duration in seconds.

I have found a chart showing a really 'good' pattern. You should be able to follow the HI numbers as described.
http://www.internetage.com/cpapdata/menu_0805.html

Here is another chart where the HI & AI are so low they hardly show ...
http://www.internetage.com/cpapdata/menu_0822.html

I hope the contrast helps clarify these numbers.

DSM

NyNurse33 · Post by **NyNurse33** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:15 pm

Anonymous wrote:now you see why that software is pretty much worthless.

Really, if you were a diabetic and just took your fingerstick (for a blood glucose reading) and it read 300, would you not take your insulin, as long as you felt fine and because you think the reading is worthless?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:20 pm

NyNurse33 wrote:
Anonymous wrote:now you see why that software is pretty much worthless.
Really, if you were a diabetic and just took your fingerstick (for a blood glucose reading) and it read 300, would you not take your insulin, as long as you felt fine and because you think the reading is worthless?

Honey I've read your posts, you have demonstrated your skills beyond compare as a nurse, I know now to avoid any hospital in state of NY.

NyNurse33 · Post by **NyNurse33** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:31 pm

Have a happy, healthy life "GUEST"! I wish you nothing but the best!!

Snoredog · Post by **Snoredog** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:09 pm

[quote="dsm"]Worthless ?.

The data is there, I think it just needs to be understood.

A hypop in AutoScan will show as the start of a blue line ( 'mountain'). The higher the line goes the greater the hypopnea index at that point, the further to the right the line goes, the longer the HIs are lasting.

Apneas show as vertical red lines - the hight of the line indicates its duration in seconds.

I have found a chart showing a really 'good' pattern. You should be able to follow the HI numbers as described.
http://www.internetage.com/cpapdata/menu_0805.html

Here is another chart where the HI & AI are so low they hardly show ...
http://www.internetage.com/cpapdata/menu_0822.html

I hope the contrast helps clarify these numbers.

DSM

Snoredog · Post by **Snoredog** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:26 pm

[quote="halb"]In looking at my night profile how do I read the hyponeas? - Apneas show as red lines - I see little mountains of blue lines - but how do I read it? If it says I had 4.3 hypo per hour and I see these blue mountains how do i know when the hypo's occurred. I am using autoscan 5.7 with a resmed s8 auto vantage

dsm · Post by **dsm** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:34 pm

snoredog

i am more than surprised at your reactionn.

No one is out to fool anyone . Can I kindly suggest you calm down.

The core data where the AI HI data is shown is from autoscan 5.4

The machine is a vPAP III - the chart with PO data is from my Ohmeda. 3741.

The point being discussed was HI AI data.

Are you clear on this ?

Cheers DSM

rested gal · Post by **rested gal** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:10 pm

I didn't think you were deliberately trying to fool anyone, dsm.

However linking to those screen shots without making it clear to begin with that the pictures of SpO2 reporting were not part of your Autoscan reports could have been confusing to people new to software reports. I can see how people might think all the data in your pictures was being reported by Autoscan alone, using a machine people are more likely to have rather than the VPAP III bi-level machine you were using.

Autoscan would not be reporting things like tidal volume and breaths per minute, etc., with non bi-level machines like the more commonly used S7 Spirit, S8 Vantage, S7 and S8 Elite.

Thanks for clarifying what extras you were using for the pictures in those reports.

rested gal · Post by **rested gal** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:36 pm

dsm wrote:The core data where the AI HI data is shown is from autoscan 5.4
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The point being discussed was HI AI data.

I may be completely wrong about this, but my understanding is that if a person has one single hypopnea of short duration, Autoscan draws a blue horizontal line all the way across that hour... drawing it from the point of time when the single hypopnea occurred, all the way across to the end of that hour. Even if the hypopnea did not last anywhere near that long. If that's so, that's one of the main things I did not find useful about presentation of data on Autoscan's graph.

So, I'm not sure if this statement is correct: "the further to the right the line goes, the longer the HIs are lasting."

dsm wrote:A hypop in AutoScan will show as the start of a blue line ( 'mountain'). The higher the line goes the greater the hypopnea index at that point, the further to the right the line goes, the longer the HIs are lasting.

Snoredog · Post by **Snoredog** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:57 pm

deleted wrong model

dsm · Post by **dsm** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:51 pm

Snoredog

Your outburst is becomining odder by the post.

THAT DATA is NOT pressure IT IS airflow ???

It is NOT an Auto it is a bilevel.

Before leaping in as u did you could have asked me what it was I posted from. I had those composite web pages from recent well publicised tests.

The issue I was addressing was interpreting AI HI data in autoscan - that I did.

I am still trying to figure out what your problem is. I hope it isnt whisky

DS

Snoredog · Post by **Snoredog** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:55 pm

[quote="dsm"]Snoredog

Your outburst is becomining odder by the post.

THAT DATA is NOT pressure IT IS airflow ???

It is NOT an Auto it is a bilevel.

Before leaping in as u did you could have asked me what it was I posted from. I had those composite web pages from recent well publicised tests.

The issue I was addressing was interpreting AI HI data in autoscan - that I did.

I am still trying to figure out what your problem is. I hope it isnt whisky

DS

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