Got my Breeze... O_o

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Got my Breeze... O_o

Post by JCraig » Wed Aug 23, 2006 2:49 pm

Well, I got my Breeze. Fitting it was/is a real pain. :/

The pictures show the back pad all the way down the back of the head below the ear line... There's nooooooooooo way in hell that would work with my head shape. So I think I've got it set, using the straps attached to the frontmost clip, but I don't know how stable it is.... I just wonder if this thing will even work with my head shape/size. :/

We'll see, I guess. It certainly doesn't "line up" like in the pictures...there's no way, heh.


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Post by JCraig » Wed Aug 23, 2006 3:50 pm

Any help/tips/etc appreciated, though I know it's largely an issue with my head shape/size.

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Post by tomjax » Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:01 pm

Many have been confused with the picture of the breeze and it goes down the back.

This is because the person is standing and gravity is at work.

Lie down and it goes to the side or whereever you put it.

IMHO, the breeze is the greatest mask out there.

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Post by JCraig » Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:37 pm

No no no, I think you're misunderstanding what I mean. The back pad is show waaaaaay far down the back of the user's head. There's no way in hades I can get it ANYWHERE NEAR that far down the back of my head...

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Post by whatrdreamsmadeof » Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:04 pm

hi, just lay on your back and fit the back pad at the base of the curve on the back of your skull, now if the back of your head is flat this mask will not work,,,,,,,,but if you have any curve at all it should be fine.... i cannot wear the straps on the closest setting to the forehead because it pulls to tight no matter what. this mask stays on for me with very little support. it almost defies gravity hang in there..it should work for you

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Post by JCraig » Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:23 pm

I think I've got it... The straps don't come very far down the sides of my head either... JUst doesn't feel stable at all. :/

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Post by Sleepless on LI » Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:41 pm

JCraig,

If I remember right, there are four adjustment points with the Breeze. Look very carefully at the headgear and make sure you're using them all. I wasn't at first and didn't realize why I couldn't get the plenum far enough down under my nose. There was an adjustment I wasn't recognizing. Maybe that's the problem in your case, too.

Maybe you'll get some help out of this 6-pg. thread that was created last summer when I first tried to get the Breeze to work for me. Like I told you, I gave up and then tried again this year and really found it to be rather good except the plastic plenum bothered my nose. But here is the link. A lot of experienced users/members had some fantastic input spread on these pages. Hope it helps you some.

viewtopic.php?t=3703&postdays=0&postord ... ze&start=0

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Post by Bookbear » Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:50 pm

A while ago, WillSucceed posted an excellent set of fitting instructions for the Breeze. That pad at the base of your skull IS adjustable, just move it to where its comfy and put a small piece of tape on the metal band to keep it from moving out of adjustment. Here are WillSucceed's directions:

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I'd suggest starting at the back of the Breeze. First, remove the pillows from the plastic plenum -they pull out easily if you squeeze them gently and pull. Loosen the set-screw and angle the plastic plenum away from your face. GENTLY re-tighten the set-screw. Remove the straps or, leave them connected but very loose.

Position the outrigger pad against the part of the back of your head where it feels most comfortable. If you have a bump on the back of your head, see if the pad is more comfortable on the bump or below the bump. Lay down on your back with the outrigger pad is this position and check to see if it is still comfortable, then start making adjustments to the slider between the outrigger and the pad that sits on the top of your head (don't worry about the rest of the Breeze yet). Bear in mind that it will take some time to get used to the feel of this pad on the back of your head. It will be annoying at first but you are likely to get used to it over time.

This top-of-the-head pad is the one that has a 'wing' off each side that have a slot for the straps to go through. This pad should sit in a position on your head where it causes no discomfort and is far enough forward to create some tension between it and the outrigger pad. The tension between these two pads should be enough to hold the Breeze in place (ie., Breeze does not go flying off into orbit when you let go of it) while you are laying on your back. Carefully remove the Breeze, making sure that the outrigger does not move out of position on the slider and put a bit of tape on the slider where it meets the outrigger so that the outrigger will stay in position. You don't want the outrigger to change position along the slider as you take the Breeze on and off.

If you removed them, reattach the straps from the outrigger pad to the top-of-the head pad. Put the Breeze back on and adjust the straps so that they are just snug enough to give stability but not so snug that your head feels like it is in a vice. Check to make sure that the straps are of equal tightness so that the Breeze is not being bent to the left or right.

Take the Breeze off again and insert the pillows into the plastic plenum making sure that only one cuff on each pillow is inserted. A properly inserted pillow shows two round, donut-like cuffs with a volcano-like opening outside the plenum and one round donut-like cuff in the plenum. The two cuffs outside the hard plastic plenum give the bellows action to the pillow. Rotate the pillows so that the slightly oval shape of the openings lines up with the oval shape / orientation of your nares.

Now start adjusting the front slider (slider between the nose plenum and the top-of-the-head pad.) As you are adjusting this up and down, loosen the set-screw that lets you adjust the angle of the plenum. You want the angle to be such that the base of the volcano-like opening forms a seal all the way around the opening of each nare. Continuing adjusting the angle and up/down along the slider so that the pillows are essentially flat against the opening of the nares and the height is not so high (tight against nares) that you feel as though your nose is being yanked upwards. AGAIN, DO THIS WHILE LYING DOWN ON YOUR BACK.

Once it seems comfortable, tighten the set-screw then carefully sit up and remove the Breeze. Put tape on the slider between the plenum and top-of-the-head pad so that this slider no longer moves.

That should be it. Try it out by attaching your PAP machine, turning on the juice and rolling around some in bed. If the Breeze is not stable, you may have to disconnect the straps from the top-of-the-head pad and reattach them to the small plastic slider that moves along the plastic hose guide between the plenum and top-of-the-head pad. This little slider has a slot on each side for the straps to be inserted. Don't remove the tape that is holding the front slider where it enters the top-of-the-head pad; just play with the position of the little plastic slider that has the openings for the straps.

Lay down again, turn on the juice and roll around some more. Make minor adjustments as needed.
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He says it better than I could! Good luck!


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Post by Jakester » Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:23 pm

In addition to those instructions you can also bend the metal band a little to help it conform to your head.

And when it seems to fit use some small zip ties to keep that forward outrigger in place.

Remember it may take a couple of weeks to condition your nose. But when it fits right and you have taped, zip tied, or whatever you come up with to keep it adjusted it will be hardly noticeable, just slip on and off and leave no cheek marks.

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Post by JCraig » Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:51 am

I got it to work pretty much... It's just that the way it sits/fits on my head looks noooooooooooooooooooothing like their literature. It stayed though, but it really *feels* unstable. It's not...but it sure feels like it. I have no idea how it stayed.

One thing that's weird is the exhale port, it sure is loud and there's a constant stream of air blasting out that little hole.

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Post by JCraig » Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:39 am

Once again you're a genius.

The link in that thread to RG's photoshopped pic will help a lot. I'll just buy/make a new strap to put way down where she does. I can tell my looking it that it will increase stability by leaps and bounds.

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Post by JCraig » Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:17 am

Still curious/concerned about that exhale port issue. Other people have stated the Breeze is "silent" ... It's anything but silent for me. That exhale port is loudish. And yes, I'm sure it's the exhale port because if I cover it with my finger it's silent.


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Post by Sleepless on LI » Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:04 am

JCraig wrote:
Once again you're a genius.
JCraig,

I have to say, I've been called a lot of things, but "genius" isn't usually it! I'm very glad that post helped you. It was filled with great advice to me that I thought may help you, too. Once again, one of the beauties of this site is its archive of old posts (not to mention the people who can always fine them-me not being one of them).

I think the exhalation port can sound noisy compared to what you're used to using. No mask is perfect so remember we have to sometimes take the little annoyances with the rest of the good things we like about the mask. If that's the biggest problem you have, you're ahead of the game, IMHO.

By the way, don't cover the exhalation port for too long while it's on your face (LOL). Wouldn't be a smart thing to do, breathing in all the CO2 .

Hope you continue to have success with it.
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Post by JCraig » Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:07 am

Nah, I just cover it for 5 seconds to confirm it's the port and not a leak making the noise, hehe. I couldn't *feel* any leaks but I wanted to be sure. Definitely no leaks. I have to "try" to make it leak, which is a good thing. Leak numbers as reported in Encore are a little higher than the listed stats, but not hugely higher, and my AHI and other numbers are good so I won't worry about that.

I just wanted to make sure that the exhale port is *supposed* to be making noise -- the diffuser on the HC405 is literally silent. The noise doesn't bother me at all, I just want to be sure it's not a malfunction!


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Post by Sleepless on LI » Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:19 am

[quote="JCraig"]Nah, I just cover it for 5 seconds to confirm it's the port and not a leak making the noise, hehe. I couldn't *feel* any leaks but I wanted to be sure. Definitely no leaks. I have to "try" to make it leak, which is a good thing. Leak numbers as reported in Encore are a little higher than the listed stats, but not hugely higher, and my AHI and other numbers are good so I won't worry about that.

I just wanted to make sure that the exhale port is *supposed* to be making noise -- the diffuser on the HC405 is literally silent. The noise doesn't bother me at all, I just want to be sure it's not a malfunction!

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