Dry mouth/Leak rates using nasal pillows

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Dry mouth/Leak rates using nasal pillows

Post by raisedfist » Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:23 pm

My AHI and "good mask fit" results are great according to Resmed software. I was looking at my data in SleepyHead and I'm not sure if these leak rates are problematic? I don't wake up with a feeling of air rushing into my mouth or anything, but I don't want to miss out on any therapy, obviously. I've used this device for 12 days, two of the days I woke up with a slight aching headache but my AHI has been reporting as < 1 every night.




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Re: Dry mouth/Leak rates using nasal pillows

Post by Julie » Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:44 pm

I think an awful lot of people would envy those reports!

Just wondering though, you seem to have all hypopneas, and if you sleep on your back all the time, or flip there for most of the night... have you made an effort to not do it? To sleep on your sides, maybe with pillows, etc. in behind to keep you there? I wonder what a sleep study would look like then. Plus not back sleeping tends to keep your mouth much less wide open of course.

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Re: Dry mouth/Leak rates using nasal pillows

Post by raisedfist » Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:48 pm

Julie wrote:I think an awful lot of people would envy those reports!

Just wondering though, you seem to have all hypopneas, and if you sleep on your back all the time, or flip there for most of the night... have you made an effort to not do it? To sleep on your sides, maybe with pillows, etc. in behind to keep you there? I wonder what a sleep study would look like then.
I sleep on my side or on my stomach with my head to the side (hose and mask draped well off the pillow). It's very difficult to sleep on my back. During the bi-level titration they let me sleep on my side because I told them I never sleep on my back at all - which is true.

I guess I will try my Full-Face mask tonight and see if those leak spikes go away. And if I feel any different.

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Re: Dry mouth/Leak rates using nasal pillows

Post by Julie » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:04 pm

They really didn't seem too bad - don't forget the '95%' stat is about 95% or LOWER, and your numbers look ok compared to many others's.

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Re: Dry mouth/Leak rates using nasal pillows

Post by LSAT » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:19 pm

Forget the leaks....

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Re: Dry mouth/Leak rates using nasal pillows

Post by raisedfist » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:44 pm

Julie wrote:They really didn't seem too bad - don't forget the '95%' stat is about 95% or LOWER, and your numbers look ok compared to many others's.
Not to sound like a moron, but what is the 95% stat? Does that mean leaks stayed under the value amount shown for 95% of the time?

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Re: Dry mouth/Leak rates using nasal pillows

Post by Julie » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:55 pm

Up to... under... at, or below, and chances of all of yours being 'at' 95% are slim to none.

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Post by m13l1n1 » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:58 pm

The AHI just show you the machine is doing is job. Doesn't really mean you had a good night sleep. The night before I couldn't fall asleep. Had something in my mind. End up moving around with my mask on as I was afraid I might really got into sleep. Woke up and my AHI was 0.6. That just mean my airway was opened as I was mostly awaken. I might get enough oxygen but not enough sleep.

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Re: Dry mouth/Leak rates using nasal pillows

Post by raisedfist » Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:14 pm

Julie wrote:Up to... under... at, or below, and chances of all of yours being 'at' 95% are slim to none.
ah okay, then it sounds like my leak levels are actually really good then. i don't see any drop in the flow rates so i assume whenever those little spikes occur the machine compensates for the leaks anyway.

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Re: Dry mouth/Leak rates using nasal pillows

Post by raisedfist » Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:15 pm

m13l1n1 wrote:The AHI just show you the machine is doing is job. Doesn't really mean you had a good night sleep. The night before I couldn't fall asleep. Had something in my mind. End up moving around with my mask on as I was afraid I might really got into sleep. Woke up and my AHI was 0.6. That just mean my airway was opened as I was mostly awaken. I might get enough oxygen but not enough sleep.

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i notice i am aware of my dreams more, but i still wake up a few times in the night so yeah i still deal with fragmentation. i'm only 13 days in though on this new machine, and i've been off all caffeine for 10 days now so my brain is probably still in shock.

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Re: Dry mouth/Leak rates using nasal pillows

Post by Julie » Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:17 pm

What are your pressure settings?

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Post by raisedfist » Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:22 pm

Julie wrote:What are your pressure settings?
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Re: Dry mouth/Leak rates using nasal pillows

Post by palerider » Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:22 pm

raisedfist wrote:
Julie wrote:They really didn't seem too bad - don't forget the '95%' stat is about 95% or LOWER, and your numbers look ok compared to many others's.
Not to sound like a moron, but what is the 95% stat? Does that mean leaks stayed under the value amount shown for 95% of the time?
this explains it very well:
http://adventures-in-hosehead-land.blog ... de-to.html

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Re: Dry mouth/Leak rates using nasal pillows

Post by raisedfist » Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:06 pm

palerider wrote:
raisedfist wrote:
Julie wrote:They really didn't seem too bad - don't forget the '95%' stat is about 95% or LOWER, and your numbers look ok compared to many others's.
Not to sound like a moron, but what is the 95% stat? Does that mean leaks stayed under the value amount shown for 95% of the time?
this explains it very well:
http://adventures-in-hosehead-land.blog ... de-to.html
thanks, this makes a lot of sense. seems i have nothing to worry about then. i'm going to start using humidity tonight as well just in case that somehow helps.

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Re: Dry mouth/Leak rates using nasal pillows

Post by palerider » Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:40 pm

raisedfist wrote:
palerider wrote:
raisedfist wrote:
Julie wrote:They really didn't seem too bad - don't forget the '95%' stat is about 95% or LOWER, and your numbers look ok compared to many others's.
Not to sound like a moron, but what is the 95% stat? Does that mean leaks stayed under the value amount shown for 95% of the time?
this explains it very well:
http://adventures-in-hosehead-land.blog ... de-to.html
thanks, this makes a lot of sense. seems i have nothing to worry about then. i'm going to start using humidity tonight as well just in case that somehow helps.
it was written by our occasional resident mathematics professor, robysue.

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