Patent fight between ResMed & Fisher/Paykel

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Patent fight between ResMed & Fisher/Paykel

Post by araminta » Thu Aug 18, 2016 12:33 pm

I thought it was interesting to read about international lawsuits flying between these 2 companies.

Read more here:
http://bit.ly/2bgoH8u

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Re: Patent fight between ResMed & Fisher/Paykel

Post by Sir NoddinOff » Thu Aug 18, 2016 12:35 pm

araminta wrote:I thought it was interesting to read about international lawsuits flying between these 2 companies.

Read more here:
http://bit.ly/2bgoH8u
Thanks, I love reading this stuff even tho I'm not a lawyer (I just play one on the internet).

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Re: Patent fight between ResMed & Fisher/Paykel

Post by chunkyfrog » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:25 pm

Superior innovative technologies, my skinny green cloaca!
Resmed cannot design a full face mask to fit my beautiful face.
I maintain that they should try just a little harder, instead of bashing the competition.

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Re: Patent fight between ResMed & Fisher/Paykel

Post by palerider » Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:05 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:Superior innovative technologies, my skinny green cloaca!
Resmed cannot design a full face mask to fit my beautiful face.
you do have to admit, your beautiful face is a bit of an edge case

we've only got a very few frogs on the forum, and none anywhere near as cute as you

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Re: Patent fight between ResMed & Fisher/Paykel

Post by jnk... » Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:14 pm

I love ResMed machines. Only brand I've ever owned.

However my position at this point in time is that all the patents should be ripped away from all blower manufacturers and mask manufacturers. Especially ResMed.

The machines save lives and should be as cheap as possible and as effective as possible and as easy to get as possible. Patents can be useful, but are now, in this field, getting in the way of innovation, not fostering it.

The playing field needs to be leveled and all the stress put on letting the market sort it out now.

The only thing that should ever get a PAP manufacturer inside a courtroom is if safety and reliability standards aren't met. Other than that, share your technology with your competition. It's the right thing to do. Make your money by making a good product, not by keeping your competition from benefiting from the science and technology of saving lives with improving sleep-breathing. You made your money with your patents. Now let them go, ResMed. And others.

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Re: Patent fight between ResMed & Fisher/Paykel

Post by palerider » Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:19 pm

[quote="jnk..."However my position at this point in time is that all the patents should be ripped away from all blower manufacturers and mask manufacturers. [/quote]

the patent and copyright system was originally conceived of to *promote* innovation. it's been perverted by business into the opposite, all that it's used for now is to stifle innovation.

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Re: Patent fight between ResMed & Fisher/Paykel

Post by Guest » Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:55 pm

jnk... wrote:Patents can be useful, but are now, in this field, getting in the way of innovation, not fostering it.
jnk... while I agree with you, I have to ask... by giving your money to resmed do you think you are part of the solution or part of the problem?

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Re: Patent fight between ResMed & Fisher/Paykel

Post by jnk... » Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:03 pm

Guest wrote:
jnk... wrote:Patents can be useful, but are now, in this field, getting in the way of innovation, not fostering it.
jnk... while I agree with you, I have to ask... by giving your money to resmed do you think you are part of the solution or part of the problem?
Part of the problem. Definitely. Just like people who complain about pollution but continue to drive cars, mow their grass, and use electricity.

All of us here are supporting the sleep-breathing industry cartel, one way or another. (They have us all by the power cord.) But I respect anyone who chooses to boycott ResMed, even though that is not yet the choice I have made.

I drive a Toyota Hybrid, too, even though Toyota is worse than ResMed at hoarding their technology, IMO. Thing is, any company with a responsible leadership is going to have policies in place to take advantage of what is allowed in order to maximize profits. If they chose to be ethical, they would be making "bad" business decisions. That is why outside regulation is needed in order to allow companies to make the right decisions.
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Re: Patent fight between ResMed & Fisher/Paykel

Post by cands » Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:26 pm

Hey guys, stop picking on poor little Aussie Resmed! What about great big bullies like Apple?

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Re: Patent fight between ResMed & Fisher/Paykel

Post by avi123 » Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:27 pm

Fisher & Paykel has lots of recalls like this one:

Fisher and Paykel Healthcare, Ltd., Infant Nasal CPAP Prongs - May Detach from Nasal Tubing and Interrupt Therapy.

http://www.fda.gov/MedicalDevices/Safet ... 398631.htm

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Re: Patent fight between ResMed & Fisher/Paykel

Post by palerider » Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:35 pm

avi123 wrote:Fisher & Paykel has lots of recalls like this one:

Fisher and Paykel Healthcare, Ltd., Infant Nasal CPAP Prongs - May Detach from Nasal Tubing and Interrupt Therapy.

http://www.fda.gov/MedicalDevices/Safet ... 398631.htm
and you have lots of stupid posts, like that one.

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Re: Patent fight between ResMed & Fisher/Paykel

Post by Guest » Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:55 pm

jnk... wrote:I respect anyone who chooses to boycott ResMed, even though that is not yet the choice I have made.
fair enough
cands wrote:Hey guys, stop picking on poor little Aussie Resmed! What about great big bullies like Apple?
so when you can buy a resmed here in the US cheaper you think that is OK? Oh but then they will charge you an import tax? Then Resmed even stopped US companies from shipping to you. Nice.

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Re: Patent fight between ResMed & Fisher/Paykel

Post by cands » Thu Aug 18, 2016 7:04 pm

Guest wrote:
cands wrote:Hey guys, stop picking on poor little Aussie Resmed! What about great big bullies like Apple?
so when you can buy a resmed here in the US cheaper you think that is OK? Oh but then they will charge you an import tax? Then Resmed even stopped US companies from shipping to you. Nice.
Yep, all okay with me. My Airsense was made in AU. I support local manufacturing jobs where possible. (There is so little here now)

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Re: Patent fight between ResMed & Fisher/Paykel

Post by Guest » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:46 pm

cands wrote: Yep, all okay with me.
obviously a re$med manager

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Re: Patent fight between ResMed & Fisher/Paykel

Post by flightco » Fri Aug 19, 2016 1:02 am

jnk... wrote:I love ResMed machines. Only brand I've ever owned.

However my position at this point in time is that all the patents should be ripped away from all blower manufacturers and mask manufacturers. Especially ResMed.

The machines save lives and should be as cheap as possible and as effective as possible and as easy to get as possible. Patents can be useful, but are now, in this field, getting in the way of innovation, not fostering it.

The playing field needs to be leveled and all the stress put on letting the market sort it out now.

The only thing that should ever get a PAP manufacturer inside a courtroom is if safety and reliability standards aren't met. Other than that, share your technology with your competition. It's the right thing to do. Make your money by making a good product, not by keeping your competition from benefiting from the science and technology of saving lives with improving sleep-breathing. You made your money with your patents. Now let them go, ResMed. And others.

Note: My opinions are solely my own, and only have to make sense to me.
You might be correct but what then would be a companies incentive to innovate and provide new and better equipment if it can be copied by others and made for pennies on the dollar when there are no R and D costs.

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