GAME OVER FOR PAP THERAPY

[afrashi]

Dear patients
I am an E.N.T. doctor from Izmir-Turkey. My name is Arman Afrashi. I was born in Teheran- Iran at 1963. Started primary school at age 4. After revolution I left Iran. I graduated from Ege university medical faculty at 1989 and became an E.N.T. specialist at 1994.
At 2010 I started to read about sleep apnea disease. At 2011 I performed a study for a new method for treatment of obstructive sleep apnea with my colleague Dr.Uçar. Results were very successful. Then Dr.Uçar presented this study in chest congress at Hawai at the same year. At the same time I started to think about a new surgical method for treatment of obstructive sleep apnea. Because since 1980’s main therapy method for treatment is paptherapy that could not tolerate by most of the patients. The hospital that I worked in did not buy any medical device for performing sleep apnea surgery. So I bought them myself. I paid Money for devices, books etc. Then I started to documented patients datas. At the end of 2012 I founded the method for treatment of OSA. But at the same time I had a serious disease that gradually did not let me to work, read or think about this. At the second part of 2013 I was very bad. At first days of 2014 I had an operation. After operation I was sick for months.
After I felt a little better I sent my new method (PFP) to an important journal, European archives of otorhinolaryngology. They published it fast. Months ago I had an patent application for Phayngeal ferromagnetic prosthesis (PFP) that will end the domination of pap therapy. I knew this patent’s value. After I sent it for patent global research to Austria the result came back to me about 3 months later. I saw that there is just the same but another patent application years ago by an American doctor, prof.Dr.Lionel Nelson from Stanford university. First It made me sad but then I decided to talk to Dr.Nelson. I was lucky because Dr.Nelson was a clever and good man. He answered honestly to all of my questions. I understood that there was a published succesful animal study. But the most important point is that there was an unpublished succesful human study too. And I learned that my published article is the first one. But actually it was a seperatly reinvention. And a big company that now is the greatest producer of pap therapy devices and etc. has bought the patent years ago by buying the Apneon company. And then they bought the biggest pap therapy devices producer company at that time too. It means that they want to sell pap therapy devices for many more years. So was this the reason of hiding the invention. I asked it to Dr.Nelson. He confirmed my ideas. The conversation between us and patent applications sent to all important sleep societies and scientists in the World.
I think everyone know everything. The industry is so powerful that could rule anyone. But one day everybody will learn these facts. Thanks for reading this important post. You can look at my publications from this link: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Arman_Afrashi I am a little bored of fighting against the system. But I will never give up. I want patients to know that there is another way for treatment of sleep apnea.
Dr.Arman Afrashi

[Julie]

We're aware of the procedure. It is invasive (cpap is not) and reports don't indicate that it helps everyone by any means. This forum is about Cpap and is hosted by a company who believes in it as we do. Most patients who have not had good advice, such as we try to give them will quit Cpap if they have not been properly set up with the right equipment for their particular needs (Apap, ASV, Vpap, etc) and had help with mask fitting - the biggest problem for many, etc. A member also designed terrific software that so many now use it to track their progress overnight and when necessary make adjustments to settings, etc. based on knowledgable and experienced advice.

No one here hides anything and various procedures have been discussed at length over time, as have medications and alternative medicine treatments.

And I must tell you that your degree list showing finance and economics ahead of your MD is in bad taste.

[afrashi]

Dear Julie
There is not any Ferromagnetic prosthesis in markets yet. So how could any person know anything about it's results and say ''it is not new!''. When you and other patients see it in work you will understand the reality.

[Julie]

The concept of your therapy is not new, whether or not your particular technique is.

Advertising on the forum is not allowed, and most is usually deleted immediately, but as you are a doctor I did not do that, however you apparently do want to sell something apart from just being informative and that's not something the forum wants.

[Sheffey]

The industry is so powerful that could rule anyone. But one day everybody will learn these facts. Thanks for reading this important post. You can look at my publications from this link: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Arman_Afrashi I am a little bored of fighting against the system. But I will never give up. I want patients to know that there is another way for treatment of sleep apnea.
Dr.Arman Afrashi

Thank you, Dr. Afrashi. I am very appreciative of the work you have done for us who suffer from this dreadful condition. When I get some time, I will look into this further. Have you discussed this with a wsj.com writer? I would like to see them write an expose on this.

Thanks again.

[Sheffey]

Dear Julie
There is not any Ferromagnetic prosthesis in markets yet. So how could any person know anything about it's results and say ''it is not new!''. When you and other patients see it in work you will understand the reality.

Please don't engage with Julie. She is a mindless Luddite and will only detract from this discussion. It is counterproductive for you to debate with her.

[ChicagoGranny]

that's not something the forum wants.

Such arrogance! You can speak only for yourself, not the forum.

All of us can speak only for ourselves, not for the forum.

[49er]

Dr. Frashi,

Is there a way of getting access to your papers without having to go through Researchgate? I know signing up is free but I always fear being spammed.

Thanks!

49er

[Julie]

The forum has a policy of deleting spam as you well know... I was talking about that. And why not express your opinion on the OP's procedure instead of arguing with me?

that's not something the forum wants.

Such arrogance! You can speak only for yourself, not the forum.

All of us can speak only for ourselves, not for the forum.

[ChicagoGranny]

The forum has a policy of deleting spam as you well know... I was talking about that. And why not express your opinion on the OP's procedure instead of arguing with me?

Your spam button needs to be taken away. I wonder what else you have deleted over the years that people would like to have read??

[Julie]

I didn't delete anything... did you?

[Pugsy]

I did go to the link provided just to see if it was a link to a product actually for sale.
No product that I could see that maybe might be considered spam and I say maybe because just because a product is offered...doesn't always mean that it warrants spam removal.

Just because something is different from cpap therapy doesn't automatically mean that it is considered spam.

CPAP doesn't always work for some people for whatever reason (valid or not) and for those people it would be nice for them to have an alternative choice...even if it isn't an ideal choice. Some therapy is better than no therapy.

To the good doctor here...you posted in a cpap help forum...people here are going to be using cpap and trying their darndest to help someone who is having problems with cpap to be successful with cpap.
It's what we do here. So your alternative idea to cpap therapy isn't necessarily going to be well received by some people here. There are some people though that like to educate themselves on various alternative ideas out there for the people who simply can't manage cpap therapy just because they want to learn. It may not be something they would ever need or want to do but they like to learn for whatever reason they have.

[avi123]

Are you interested to sell this device:


But what about the face mask connection?

[49er]

I did go to the link provided just to see if it was a link to a product actually for sale.
No product that I could see that maybe might be considered spam and I say maybe because just because a product is offered...doesn't always mean that it warrants spam removal.

Just because something is different from cpap therapy doesn't automatically mean that it is considered spam.

CPAP doesn't always work for some people for whatever reason (valid or not) and for those people it would be nice for them to have an alternative choice...even if it isn't an ideal choice. Some therapy is better than no therapy.

To the good doctor here...you posted in a cpap help forum...people here are going to be using cpap and trying their darndest to help someone who is having problems with cpap to be successful with cpap.
It's what we do here. So your alternative idea to cpap therapy isn't necessarily going to be well received by some people here. There are some people though that like to educate themselves on various alternative ideas out there for the people who simply can't manage cpap therapy just because they want to learn. It may not be something they would ever need or want to do but they like to learn for whatever reason they have.

+100

[Sir NoddinOff]

I did go to the link provided just to see if it was a link to a product actually for sale.
No product that I could see that maybe might be considered spam and I say maybe because just because a product is offered...doesn't always mean that it warrants spam removal.

Just because something is different from cpap therapy doesn't automatically mean that it is considered spam.

CPAP doesn't always work for some people for whatever reason (valid or not) and for those people it would be nice for them to have an alternative choice...even if it isn't an ideal choice. Some therapy is better than no therapy.

To the good doctor here...you posted in a cpap help forum...people here are going to be using cpap and trying their darndest to help someone who is having problems with cpap to be successful with cpap.
It's what we do here. So your alternative idea to cpap therapy isn't necessarily going to be well received by some people here. There are some people though that like to educate themselves on various alternative ideas out there for the people who simply can't manage cpap therapy just because they want to learn. It may not be something they would ever need or want to do but they like to learn for whatever reason they have.

+1
There will probably be some testing and certain peer review publication if it's true that the device patent was bought up by a large CPAP manufacturer... they've got LOADS of money and will chase down the idea if they think there's a buck in it. Especially as an alternate therapy for the typical fifty percent who fail to adapt to CPAP... meaning a big market that won't threaten CPAP's role. Whether the good doctor is part of that remains to be seen.